I wish in modern view we could move around the columns.  I too miss the number 
conversation at the beginning, I relied on that pretty heavily.  Sheesh, if I 
saw a conversation was over 20, sometimes I skipped it.  In classic layout I 
don’t know how to get VO to announce the number inside the conversation, it 
just says conversation, conversation.

When I first looked at my email yesterday, it was acting very oddly.  I was 
missing a ton of messages.  Now, I’m noticing they are filtering in like crazy. 
 My notification center keeps popping up with messages that I received a long 
time ago.  I’m going to have to scope out this behavior.

Thanks,
Traci
On Oct 23, 2013, at 6:59 AM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote:

> There is a setting in voice over where you can disable the announcement of 
> column headers, this should turn off the reading of the title of each column.
> Original message:
>> Thanks very much for that Alex.
>> I have never used Classic View before today, but you’re right, enabling it 
>> has allowed me to turn some of this stuff off. I do wish VO didn’t speak the 
>> field before the contents of each field, but at least it’s a little better 
>> than what I had.
> 
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
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> 
>> On 23/10/2013, at 2:30 pm, Alex Hall 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> 
>> I am not running OS 10.9 yet, but it sounds like you have disabled Classic 
>> View. I don't use that feature, but what you describe - the ability to 
>> decide exactly what get spoken with each message - is Classic View behavior. 
>> Open Mail Preferences, and see if you can find the Classic View setting 
>> checkbox. That might work, I am not sure.
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Jonathan Mosen 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> 
>> Hi everyone, so far I must say I’m disappointed with Mail in Mavericks.
>> Mail in Mavericks has become way to chatty for my tastes and I’m hoping I’ve 
>> just missed a setting to make it stop.
>> In Mountain Lion, I had my message list set up so all I heard was the 
>> sender, and the subject. If there was an attachment, I heard that too. Now 
>> it seems the time that the message was sent and some other stuff that just 
>> slows me down is included and I haven’t found a way to turn it off.
>> Second, the number of messages in a conversation is now spoken at the end, 
>> after the message header details and the message preview. I’d prefer the old 
>> behaviour, where I heard how big the conversation was at the very beginning.
>> And finally, I used to get from my message list to the email i wanted to 
>> read by pressing VO+J. The message would immediately start to read. Now it 
>> seems a first press of VO+J does nothing at all, and to do the same thing 
>> that once took 1 press of VO+J now takes three. I think this latter one is a 
>> bug.
>> I’ve really enjoyed using Mail in Mountain Lion but if I can’t get the 
>> chatty behaviour under control, will run Outlook in a VM.
>> Thanks for any thoughts.
> 
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
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