Actually you can use columns is standard view. You just interact with a 
message, move to a column, and then when you press the up and down arrows, only 
that column is read.

HtH,
Teresa

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On Oct 23, 2013, at 8:31 AM, Traci Duncan <[email protected]> wrote:

> I wish in modern view we could move around the columns.  I too miss the 
> number conversation at the beginning, I relied on that pretty heavily.  
> Sheesh, if I saw a conversation was over 20, sometimes I skipped it.  In 
> classic layout I don’t know how to get VO to announce the number inside the 
> conversation, it just says conversation, conversation.
> 
> When I first looked at my email yesterday, it was acting very oddly.  I was 
> missing a ton of messages.  Now, I’m noticing they are filtering in like 
> crazy.  My notification center keeps popping up with messages that I received 
> a long time ago.  I’m going to have to scope out this behavior.
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
> On Oct 23, 2013, at 6:59 AM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> There is a setting in voice over where you can disable the announcement of 
>> column headers, this should turn off the reading of the title of each column.
>> Original message:
>>> Thanks very much for that Alex.
>>> I have never used Classic View before today, but you’re right, enabling it 
>>> has allowed me to turn some of this stuff off. I do wish VO didn’t speak 
>>> the field before the contents of each field, but at least it’s a little 
>>> better than what I had.
>> 
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org <http://Mosen.org>
>> 
>>> On 23/10/2013, at 2:30 pm, Alex Hall 
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> I am not running OS 10.9 yet, but it sounds like you have disabled Classic 
>>> View. I don't use that feature, but what you describe - the ability to 
>>> decide exactly what get spoken with each message - is Classic View 
>>> behavior. Open Mail Preferences, and see if you can find the Classic View 
>>> setting checkbox. That might work, I am not sure.
>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Jonathan Mosen 
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi everyone, so far I must say I’m disappointed with Mail in Mavericks.
>>> Mail in Mavericks has become way to chatty for my tastes and I’m hoping 
>>> I’ve just missed a setting to make it stop.
>>> In Mountain Lion, I had my message list set up so all I heard was the 
>>> sender, and the subject. If there was an attachment, I heard that too. Now 
>>> it seems the time that the message was sent and some other stuff that just 
>>> slows me down is included and I haven’t found a way to turn it off.
>>> Second, the number of messages in a conversation is now spoken at the end, 
>>> after the message header details and the message preview. I’d prefer the 
>>> old behaviour, where I heard how big the conversation was at the very 
>>> beginning.
>>> And finally, I used to get from my message list to the email i wanted to 
>>> read by pressing VO+J. The message would immediately start to read. Now it 
>>> seems a first press of VO+J does nothing at all, and to do the same thing 
>>> that once took 1 press of VO+J now takes three. I think this latter one is 
>>> a bug.
>>> I’ve really enjoyed using Mail in Mountain Lion but if I can’t get the 
>>> chatty behaviour under control, will run Outlook in a VM.
>>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>> 
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
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