In which case, might I suggest that we are not the best recipients of your 
message.  Try here writing to:

[email protected]

And, might I also suggest that you catch more flies with honey?


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:53 PM, eric oyen <[email protected]> wrote:

> the tone is an indication of my level of frustration since this update went 
> in this morning. Before this, I had minor issues that could be worked around. 
> Not so with this update. Being forced to restart my macbook because of a 
> browser issue is entirely unacceptable. I expect stuff like this in the 
> development product (Webkit) but not in a finished release to market product.
> 
> If you find my attitude a bit strong, I apologize for that. I am normally a 
> lot more patient about things, but having 3 projects I was working on get 
> dumped (and losing about a days worth of work) tends to put a fine edge on my 
> anger.
> 
> anyway, I hope someone over at the development team looks at this and 
> realizes how bad this just got.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Oct 23, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Danny Noonan wrote:
> 
>> I'm sure I'd hurry up after a message tone like that. 
>> 
>> When Safari is fixed perhaps google  negotiation skills and effective 
>> communication skills. 
>> 
>> Good luck. 
>> 
>> 
>> Danny. 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 24 Oct 2013, at 2:32 pm, eric oyen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The new Safari 6.1 went on my Lion system today and now some voiceover 
>>> issues have developed.
>>> 
>>> 1. Web Item rotor no longer shows all headers on a google search, or on 
>>> some other pages.
>>> 2. on any web page where there is a tweet text field, any attempt to enter 
>>> text there results in the browser going busy and forcing a force-quit.
>>> 
>>> also, when scrolling through google searches, the website info on each 
>>> search gets repeated at each new element (be it text, links or headers).
>>> 
>>> there is also inconsistent behavior when trying to open links using the 
>>> VO+shift+M context menu. SOme options that should show up (like open link 
>>> in new tab or page) don't more than half the time.
>>> 
>>> Since I am totally blind and have to depend on both voiceover and Safari to 
>>> work properly, when they don't, I am basically left trying to get both to 
>>> work again. In one case, installing an add-on to solve captchas resulted in 
>>> voiceover completely crashing and then refusing to restart on CMD-F5.
>>> 
>>> THese issues are entirely unacceptable and are required to be fixed 
>>> immediately.
>>> 
>>> As an aside, similar issues crop up with google-chrome with the same 
>>> frequency. Don't even ask about FireFox (it works barely some of the time).
>>> 
>>> You folks need to repair this. I am also copying this to 2 related mailing 
>>> lists.
>>> 
>>> Please take care of this, POST HASTE!
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
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