Hello Daniela, I don’t know why this isn’t working for you. With it set to Wrap to Window, it all works fine for me.
Cheers, Anne On 30 Oct 2013, at 23:10, Daniela Rubio <[email protected]> wrote: > What happens to me, is that I can work correctly with textedit on page one, > but when I go to page 2, VoiceOver won’t read with the regular commands. > What can we do about? I already unchecked the page wrap. > Thanks! > > Daniela Rubio T > Distinguished Educator > iPhone: +34662328507 > > > > El 30/10/2013, a las 23:03, Andrew Lamanche <[email protected]> > escribió: > >> Dear Anne, >> >> You wrote: >> >> "I’m not having your problems with TextEdit under Mavericks. I always >> interact with the text and Find commands work correctly" >> Anne, thank you for responding. Maybe it has to do with my setup but I can't >> think what may be different. When I interact with the text, I can use vo + >> arrows to read the text and vo+shift + arrows to spell words but I can't use >> any of the editing commands like highlighting or deleting. I'm sorry to >> sound panicky but these rtf files are work-related and I got anxious as one >> would of course. The mac computer on which I have installed maverick is old >> but it used to run Mountain Lion successfully. I did an extensive search on >> the internet as regards which macs would run Maverick and the overwhelming >> impression I got from all the comments was that if one's computer could run >> mountain lion it should also run Maverick. That's why I have installed >> Maverick. I guess I just have to accept that I won't be able to edit rtf in >> TextEdit nor iText express now. Do you understand why Pages won't open or >> deal with rtf files? I thought Pages was a word processor that should be >> able to deal with a variety of existing formats. >> Also, Anne, when you interact with the text in TextEdit, I presume that you >> would interact by the usual way of vo+shift+down arrow. Can you then select >> text by using for instance shift+option + down arrow to select a line? Or >> are there different key strokes to select and manipulate text? >> >> Thank you for the time you took to respond to my woes. >> >> With best wishes >> >> Andrew >> >> On 30 Oct 2013, at 21:10, [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Today's Topic Summary >>> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics >>> >>> The Calendar is weird on the Mac. [6 Updates] >>> Some useful Mac keyboard shortcuts [1 Update] >>> Disk Maker X [1 Update] >>> Converting outlook express mail to apple mail. [1 Update] >>> TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to [8 >>> Updates] >>> Mac Calender (Openning Events) [3 Updates] >>> Help with OS 10.9, VO and Navigating Website with Frames [2 Updates] >>> Stopping VO Speech [2 Updates] >>> The Calendar is weird on the Mac. >>> Kawal Gucukoglu <[email protected]> Oct 30 06:34PM >>> >>> Hello All. >>> >>> I had a notification in my calendar and after closing it in the >>> Notifications on my Mac, I needed to edit an appointment in my Calendar. >>> >>> At first I could not navigate the days. So I decided to go down with vo >>> Down arrow which got me into my list of events. >>> >>> Does anyone know how to navigate the calendar as I have day view running. >>> >>> I wish Voice Over would tell you list of short cut keys although Voice Over >>> may not have any. >>> >>> Once I got the hang of checking my list of events, the rest of it was guess >>> work. It wasn’t difficult but one will have to get use to it. >>> >>> Just before I go, one thing has always bugged me on the Mac but those of >>> you who have used Jaws in a windows environment will understand what I mean. >>> >>> Can one know the title of document of window or application? As in Windows >>> you could do insert T for the title of application or document. >>> >>> I am now not putting Windows back on my Mac as it is too much work. Unless >>> something bad happens as I’ve decided to get Sarah for my scanning needs in >>> due course. >>> I’ve been using the Mac since 2010 and now I’m feeling comfortable with it. >>> >>> Kawal. >>> >>> Daniela Rubio <[email protected]> Oct 30 07:37PM +0100 >>> >>> Hi! >>> To know the title of an app, hit VO+f1. To know the title of a window, hit >>> VO+f2. This, understanding that your function keys work as standard keys. >>> Best >>> >>> Distinguished Educator >>> iPhone: +34662328507 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> Oct 30 01:28PM -0600 >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I guess I must be used to the Calendar on the Mac as I’m not experiencing >>> your frustration. Note the following when in Day View: >>> >>> 1. If you navigate around the screen, you’ll have Previous Day, Today and >>> Next Day buttons as well as the current month grid and two areas for >>> today’s events. One is sort of a summary thing that you can drill down into >>> and the other is the more editable List of Events Table. >>> >>> 2. When you Interact with the List of events Table, then, contrary to my >>> last post about the Calendar app, you are able to edit/delete events >>> easily. To edit the event, simply navigate to it then press cmd-i (Get >>> Info) or cmd-e (Edit Event) which, by the way, appear to bring up the same >>> window. To delete the event, navigate to it then press the Delete key and >>> follow the prompt. When I posted in Neil’s question, I was in Month view so >>> it was not as easy as in Day view. >>> >>> 3. When you Interact with the Month Grid, you can quickly whip around >>> through the month and VO will announce if the specific day has any events >>> in it. You can drill down into that day while in the Month Grid and use VO >>> navigation to hear the events and can press cmd-i to edit it if you wish. >>> If you decide to delete it,, it’s easier, in my opinion, to navigate to the >>> List of Events Table and delete it from there. >>> >>> HTH. >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> >>> Anne Robertson <[email protected]> Oct 30 09:05PM +0100 >>> >>> Hello Kawal, >>> >>> In Calendar, have you tried using the command VO-Cmd-x to go to Next List? >>> >>> Also, when you want to find a command, try doing VO-h-h to get the complete >>> list of VO commands. You’ll be amazed at what you find. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> >>> Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> Oct 30 02:13PM -0600 >>> >>> > Hi, >>> >>> I forgot to mention that cmd-right arrow goes to the next day, cmd-left >>> arrow for Previous day, and cmd-t for going directly to Today if you’re >>> somewhere else in the calendar of events. I believe that the cmd-right and >>> cmd-left will morph accordingly if you change to Week, Month or Year views. >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> >>> Kawal Gucukoglu <[email protected]> Oct 30 08:43PM >>> >>> No I haven’t Anne. Will give it a go. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Kawal. >>> >>> Some useful Mac keyboard shortcuts >>> Shimzin Lists <[email protected]> Oct 31 08:53AM +1300 >>> >>> >>> Disk Maker X >>> Daniel C <[email protected]> Oct 30 02:34PM -0500 >>> >>> Hi, >>> I was trying out Disk Maker X, now that I’ve upgraded to Mavericks, and it >>> says that it has no windows. I don’t seem to be able to quit it without >>> going to force quit. >>> How am I able to make a boot disk since Disk Maker X won’t work? >>> >>> Converting outlook express mail to apple mail. >>> Tim Emmons <[email protected]> Oct 30 01:58PM -0500 >>> >>> Sent from my iPhoneHey guys, I have a curious question. And, you can answer >>> me here, or off list or you can message me on facebook or text my number, >>> 334 296 3558, whichever is easiest because I need to know soon. I have a >>> patron who is trying to convert his outlook mail to apple mail with no >>> success. Does anybody have any idea how to perform this and if so, which >>> direction can I point him. Thanks and take care. If you me/sage me on >>> facebook or text me just let me know who you are. Thanks andtalk. toyou. >>> soon,like. I said I didn't know how to get answers quickly andI. don't have >>> time just to monitor the list. Thanksand. takecare. >>> >>> TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to >>> Andrew Lamanche <[email protected]> Oct 30 03:44PM >>> >>> Listers, >>> >>> I am having problems with rtf files in TextEdit and iText express. Whilst I >>> used to be able to read them and edit them by using just arrow keys in >>> Mountain Lion, in Maverick, I don't seem to be able to do this. I have to >>> interact with the text area to be able to read by line but then I can't >>> delete text or look for text with find facility. The same is true of iText >>> express. I thought Pages might do it so I have just purchased it and what a >>> disappointment! Pages won't even see rtf files in my folders. Disaster! I >>> had to convert rtf to txt format in order to get back to being able to edit >>> and arrow up and down the text. >>> >>> Has anyone else noticed it as well? >>> >>> Look forward to your experiences/tips. >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> Anne Robertson <[email protected]> Oct 30 06:06PM +0100 >>> >>> Hello Andrew, >>> >>> I’m not having your problems with TextEdit under Mavericks. I always >>> interact with the text and Find commands work correctly. >>> >>> Have you repaired permissions lately? Also, resetting the PRAM can also fix >>> weird problems. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> >>> Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> Oct 30 12:30PM -0500 >>> >>> How does one reset the Pram again? I seem always to forget that. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>> built-in! >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>> >>> >>> Anne Robertson <[email protected]> Oct 30 06:44PM +0100 >>> >>> Hello Ray, >>> >>> To reset the PRAM, shut down your computer, then hold down the following >>> four keys: Command, Option, letter p and letter r. With these held down, >>> press the Power key once and keep the other four keys held down until >>> you’ve heard the start up chime four times. Let go and the machine will >>> boot as usual. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> >>> Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> Oct 30 01:16PM -0500 >>> >>> Hi guys >>> Bad news! We don't know it, but when we select text in TextEdit in >>> Mavericks, it might be selected and we don't know it. Just before Apple put >>> me back to Mountain Lion, I was on the Remote Advisor screen, and I showed >>> the Apple representative under TextEdit (rtf file, that is). I said I >>> couldn't delete anything. That wasn't the thing, he told me. It would >>> delete just fine, but VoiceOver wasn't saying things right. I had selected >>> them, and when he told me, I deleted the text I wanted to take out. >>> >>> The braille display that I helped to make worse and TextEdit problems are >>> why I was put back into Mountain Lion. I have to have TextEdit for my work. >>> ;the frustrating thing is, I really need the update for Numbers. I found it >>> to be better than the old one. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gigi who used to break programs for Freedom Scientific and who is now >>> happily breaking them for Apple now >>> >>> >>> BBS <[email protected]> Oct 30 01:23PM -0500 >>> >>> On a similar note, when I use Text Edit, I’m noticing that I can’t open a >>> big folder anymore. All Voiceover says is browser when I tap the right >>> arrow to go in the folder. >>> >>> Shawn >>> Sent From My White Mac Book >>> >>> >>> Anne Robertson <[email protected]> Oct 30 07:28PM +0100 >>> >>> Hello Gigi, >>> >>> I’m using TextEdit under Mavericks and when I select text, VoiceOver says >>> the text followed by “highlighted”. I interact with the text so that the VO >>> commands will work. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> >>> Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> Oct 30 01:32PM -0500 >>> >>> Thanks Anne. I am glad to hear it. Maybe it had something to do with the >>> fact that I had my Braille Edge 40 on there before I supidly took it off. >>> VoiceOver refused to recognize any braille displays after that, and I >>> seemed to be having some terrible navigation issues. So maybe this relates >>> to something on my computer and not something in general. I still have an >>> open case, so as soon as I can, I am going to call Apple back and see >>> what's what. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gigi >>> >>> >>> Mac Calender (Openning Events) >>> Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> Oct 30 11:12AM -0600 >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> • To edit the event, try cmd-i to Get Info. >>> >>> • To delete an event is not as nice with VO. You’re supposed to be able to >>> click on the event then press the Delete key, but this is less than useful >>> with VO. I was able to delete an event by selecting it then going up to the >>> Edit menu and choosing Delete. Not as pleasant but workable. >>> >>> HTH. >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> >>> Kawal Gucukoglu <[email protected]> Oct 30 05:20PM >>> >>> Tim, >>> >>> What you describe has always been the default behaviour. >>> >>> I have always found the calendar in Mountain Lion difficult on the Mac. >>> However, I don’t know if it’s improved under Mavericks. It’s better on IOS7 >>> but you can’t get rid of birthdays especially if they came from MSN >>> messenger as I have birthdays in my calendar from people when I was using >>> Linctin. >>> >>> Kawal. >>> >>> Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> Oct 30 11:46AM -0600 >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> What’s likely happening with the birthdays, is that you don’t have >>> permission to edit/delete them. When events come to your calendar from an >>> outside source such as FaceBook, Linctin etc, then you don’t have edit >>> privileges for that item, just read privileges. >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> >>> Help with OS 10.9, VO and Navigating Website with Frames >>> Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> Oct 30 12:28PM -0500 >>> >>> The more things like this we report to Apple, the more they will have to >>> fix them. >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>> built-in! >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>> >>> >>> Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> Oct 30 11:42AM -0600 >>> >>> Hi Lou, >>> >>> I can confirm your findings. Here’s what I do to get around this for now. >>> >>> 1. After activating a link in the first frame, press tab until you reach an >>> item in the other frame. >>> 2. If it is a link you wish to affect, press return after tabbing to it. >>> >>> This is where things get inconsistent. Sometimes, I can Interact with >>> whatever I’ve tabbed to and then VO focus restores but not as often as I’d >>> like. It appears that when using VO navigation, including the Item Chooser, >>> most of the elements aren’t being noticed by VO. If you tab though, they >>> are workable, but not really in a VO way. What I mean here, is that using >>> VO commands makes it lose focus again whereas using OS commands like tab >>> and return will perform the task. I’ve also noticed that, only sometimes, a >>> Refresh of the page will help. >>> >>> So, overall, I probably have only confirmed your findings and only given >>> you half-baked work-arounds. Hope it helped a little. >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> >>> Stopping VO Speech >>> Scott Rumery <[email protected]> Oct 30 12:05PM -0400 >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am having a bit of trouble with stopping VO when it gets too verbose. I >>> am running Mavericks on a 2012 MacBookPro with Retina. >>> >>> Whenever I try and stop VO from talking by pressing the Control key nothing >>> happens. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what the problem may be. I >>> have already tried resetting VO to the defaults but this doesn’t change the >>> behavior . >>> >>> Thanks for any help, >>> >>> Scott Rumery >>> >>> don bishop <[email protected]> Oct 30 09:15AM -0700 >>> >>> Using an imac and mavericks, I've seen this but it'snot consistent. >>> Sometimes control will work, but it's sluggish. >>> Don >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Scott Rumery <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Date: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:05 am >>> Subject: Stopping VO Speech >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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