Hey Tim,

Thanks for the lead. I just setup my google drive. I'm now trying to figure out 
how to move the google doc which I have opened in Safari to the Google drive. 
How do I move the google doc into my drive?

You're also right about the file menu within the Google doc in  safari. I've 
explored the page thoroughly and VO can't seem to find a file menu in the 
google doc. If I can figure out how to move the google doc to my google drive, 
then I'll avoid Google Chrome. If not, then I'll tackle Chrome.

Thanks for your help.

Best,

Ibraheem
 
On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Sorry, VO focus in Mavericks Mail is jumpy lately and it’s jumping to the 
> Send button often while typing.  So, as soon as I hit the spacebar, things 
> get sent.  In any case, I’ll try to finish this message again.  The Google 
> Spreadsheets have some oddities when using Safari.  I usually move the shared 
> spreadsheet into my Google Drive, then open it from the Finder.  When you do 
> this, keyboard focus will usually be brought to cell A1.  You can then just 
> use arrow key navigation to move around the spreadsheet.  Not VO arrows, just 
> arrow keys.  If you need to edit a cell, simply arrow to it then enter the 
> info you desire.
> 
> Beyond that, if you wish to download it as an Excel file, that option is 
> under the File menu of the Google Doc.  Not the Safari File menu, but the one 
> within the Google Spreadsheet.  The problem here arises due to the way that 
> Safari and VO deal with the Google Docs menus which is less than useful at 
> times.  Chrome handles this sort of thing much better, but, then you need to 
> be versed at using Chrome as well.  I tend to use both browsers as some 
> things work better in each.
> 
> If you are able to download the Excel version, Numbers 09 will open it and 
> you can do most things you’re used to doing in Excel with pretty well the 
> same formula set.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 7, 2013, at 7:26 AM, Ibraheem Fakir <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Does anyone have any advice to how I can work with spreadsheets on a mac? I 
>> am working with a group which has a spreadsheet shared through googledocs 
>> and I'm using voiceover with safari to view the doc. I'm unsure though how 
>> to edit the cells within the spreadsheet as it displays in safari. Is there 
>> a way to download the xl file and work with it within another application? I 
>> have Iworks 9 Numbers installed, and am using Snow Leopard. (I know, I'm 
>> technologically old school at this point). Also if anyone has any notes on 
>> how to work with spreadsheets using VO, e.g list of keyboard commands, I 
>> would deeply appreciate it. If you recommend another app aside from Numbers, 
>> I am open to exploration.
>> 
>> this is my first time working with a spreadsheet so all suggestions are 
>> invaluable. 
>> 
>> Thanks so much and I'm excited to hear back from the group.
>> Warmly,
>> 
>> Ibraheem
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