Sorry, VO jumped again and I pressed the spacebar which activated the Send 
button.

***


Things have changed a bit with Google’s new look so I’m not totally positive on 
how it will behave in Snow Leopard with Safari 5.*.  I’ll give some basic ideas 
though:

• Go to the Drive link or press the Open My Google Drive link.

This will take you to the main Google Drive page which lists your Drive 
documents and Shared documents depending on what is selected.  In the newest 
look for Google Drive, there’s an area that says something about Welcome to the 
new look grid or something similar, Interact with that.  Navigate around there 
until VO says “Menu Views four items” or something similar.  Interact with that 
item and VO-space on the Shared item.  This will ensure that the list is of 
only the items that are Shared with you.  Navigate to the list of items and 
arrow through it.  You need to check the item you wish to move.  If you can 
locate the Checkbox, check it otherwise, often you can simply press the “x” key 
when arrowing through the list to select it.  After it is selected, Stop 
Interacting with the list then navigate left and there should be a group of 
items with the Move button inside.  Activate the Move button and a new dialog 
should pop up.  Choose where you wish to move it within your Drive.  Sometimes, 
I’ve found that you need to use the VO-shift-space to select the location 
and/or simply a press of the spacebar will do it.  You’ll need to try a few 
different things.  You’ll know your selection of the location has worked 
because the Move button will become not-dimmed.  If you’re having issues 
determining exactly where it is going to go in your Drive, don’t worry, you can 
move it after it’s in the Drive in the Finder and this will affect the 
web-interface of your Google Drive.  The really neat thing about having these 
shared items in the Desktop version of Google Drive is that any changes that 
are made by anyone are synced across all users who have access to the document.

Hopefully, this makes some sense to you.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Ibraheem Fakir <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey Tim,
> 
> Thanks for the lead. I just setup my google drive. I'm now trying to figure 
> out how to move the google doc which I have opened in Safari to the Google 
> drive. How do I move the google doc into my drive?
> 
> You're also right about the file menu within the Google doc in  safari. I've 
> explored the page thoroughly and VO can't seem to find a file menu in the 
> google doc. If I can figure out how to move the google doc to my google 
> drive, then I'll avoid Google Chrome. If not, then I'll tackle Chrome.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Ibraheem
>  
> On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Sorry, VO focus in Mavericks Mail is jumpy lately and it’s jumping to the 
>> Send button often while typing.  So, as soon as I hit the spacebar, things 
>> get sent.  In any case, I’ll try to finish this message again.  The Google 
>> Spreadsheets have some oddities when using Safari.  I usually move the 
>> shared spreadsheet into my Google Drive, then open it from the Finder.  When 
>> you do this, keyboard focus will usually be brought to cell A1.  You can 
>> then just use arrow key navigation to move around the spreadsheet.  Not VO 
>> arrows, just arrow keys.  If you need to edit a cell, simply arrow to it 
>> then enter the info you desire.
>> 
>> Beyond that, if you wish to download it as an Excel file, that option is 
>> under the File menu of the Google Doc.  Not the Safari File menu, but the 
>> one within the Google Spreadsheet.  The problem here arises due to the way 
>> that Safari and VO deal with the Google Docs menus which is less than useful 
>> at times.  Chrome handles this sort of thing much better, but, then you need 
>> to be versed at using Chrome as well.  I tend to use both browsers as some 
>> things work better in each.
>> 
>> If you are able to download the Excel version, Numbers 09 will open it and 
>> you can do most things you’re used to doing in Excel with pretty well the 
>> same formula set.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2013, at 7:26 AM, Ibraheem Fakir <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have any advice to how I can work with spreadsheets on a mac? I 
>>> am working with a group which has a spreadsheet shared through googledocs 
>>> and I'm using voiceover with safari to view the doc. I'm unsure though how 
>>> to edit the cells within the spreadsheet as it displays in safari. Is there 
>>> a way to download the xl file and work with it within another application? 
>>> I have Iworks 9 Numbers installed, and am using Snow Leopard. (I know, I'm 
>>> technologically old school at this point). Also if anyone has any notes on 
>>> how to work with spreadsheets using VO, e.g list of keyboard commands, I 
>>> would deeply appreciate it. If you recommend another app aside from 
>>> Numbers, I am open to exploration.
>>> 
>>> this is my first time working with a spreadsheet so all suggestions are 
>>> invaluable. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much and I'm excited to hear back from the group.
>>> Warmly,
>>> 
>>> Ibraheem
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