Hi there
Okay, you want to press the space with the bb sign in order to select the 
previous roter item. Then you press dots 5-6 to select the next roter item. I 
am busy making a file of general brill display commands. I think they are in 
the voice over menu anyway, but I have looked there lately. When I get it done, 
do you want it? I'll have to do it a little later since I am about to get ready 
and get on the bus.

Regards,
Gigi
On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Kristeen Hughes <khwi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks,. This info does help. Can you tell me how I can sellect text? I've 
> not been successful.
> 
> Kristeen
> On Nov 12, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Teresa is correct, you have to do a lot of customizing in order to get your 
>> focus display to work as your keyboard. Unfortunately, you will have to use 
>> your keyboard more than you would like to. That's just the nature of the 
>> beast.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Admittedly, yes, I’m also using a keyboard. My opinion is that you’ll 
>>> probably have to do quite a lot of customizing to use a Braille display as 
>>> a primary keyboard.
>>> 
>>> For switching apps, I’d probably map a braille keystroke to VO-applications 
>>> list. (VO-f1 twice quickly)I don’t think there’s an easy way to map one to 
>>> command-tab.
>>> 
>>> HtH,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
>>> dark to read."--Groucho Marx
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Kristeen Hughes <khwi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Okay, I look and I don't see some things that seem to be rather importatn. 
>>>> For example, if you are wanting to switch from one open app to another, 
>>>> how do you do it with the display. Are you using a keyboard along with the 
>>>> display?
>>>> 
>>>> Kristeen
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, Kristeen,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a focus 40 Blue and use it constantly with Mavericks. I haven’t 
>>>>> tried assigning keystrokes for selecting text, etc. but there’s a good 
>>>>> chance it can be done. In the vO utility, you can go to Braille and view 
>>>>> the assigned commands for your Braille display and modify or assign new 
>>>>> ones. There’s a lot of stuff in there, so have fun exploring. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> HtH,
>>>>> Teresa
>>>>> 
>>>>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Kristeen Hughes <khwi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This may have been discussed before, but I have to try again. I would 
>>>>>> like to use my Focus 40 Blue with my Mac Mini. I would prefer not to 
>>>>>> have to use another keyboard along with it. Are there any ways to add 
>>>>>> important keystrokes like switching between open programs and closing a 
>>>>>> window or program, etc? Along with that is it truly possible to cut and 
>>>>>> paste and manipulate text? Of someone wants to address this stuff off of 
>>>>>> the list, that's cool.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kristeen
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi guys
>>>>>>> I had so many problems I had to go back to mountain kitty. They weren't 
>>>>>>> just with my braille display, which I reported is doing fine yesterday. 
>>>>>>> However, today I couldn't even navigate properly in TextEdit. I 
>>>>>>> couldn't even tell what I'd selected to the end of the text didn't tell 
>>>>>>> me. I was getting too many finder busy messages also, and I couldn't 
>>>>>>> always navigate and tell where I was.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I had to call that 877 number, and he is checking for me.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards and a little stressed, but this is computers were talking about,
>>>>>>> Gigi
>>>>>>> Eugenia Firth
>>>>>>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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