agh using a mac mini didn’t even think of the fn key.
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On 5 Dec 2013, at 8:59 am, Deb Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:

> Try pressing the FN key alont with control and option. You can change
> the need for this in preferences later but by default you'll need to
> press it on the lap top keyboard. so it's going to be
> fn/control/option/F8 to start the VO utility.
> 
> 
> On 12/4/13, Lee Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Dear List,I got my macbook air today. I hav found it a very tough learning
>> curve. I can't get control option f8 to bring up the voice over utility no
>> matter how many times I try,, a sighted person has also tried and it does
>> not work.  Does the focus have to be somewhere special to make this work?How
>> do you turn off the macbook do you use the on off button or is there a way
>> in OSX itself, a shut down button?  Can Someone explain very simply the
>> difference between the functions of control option and the arrow keys,
>> control option command and the arrow keys,control option shift and the arrow
>> keys because maybe I'm thick but I don't get it!
>> is it possible to download voices without using the voice over utility?  I
>> am suddenly not hating freedom scientific quite so much.
>> 
>> Many Thanks, Lee          -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brandon Olivares
>> Sent: 04 December 2013 15:18
>> To: “Mac Visionaries“
>> Subject: Re: Option Key Not Working
>> 
>> Nope it doesn't matter if keyboard commander is on or off.
>> 
>> On Dec 4, 2013, at 3:59 AM, "Red.Falcon" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> OK just a couple of ideas!
>>> 1, do you have both option keys set to use with keyboard commander!
>>> 2, Just try switching off keyboard commander with VO+shift+k and see if
>>> the option key things like € • and others!
>>> I've found if you need to use those items it is best to toggle on or off
>>> keyboard commander when needed!
>>> HTH Colin
>>> 
>>> On 4 Dec 2013, at 07:25, Brandon Olivares <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> My option key works technically, as if I press ctrl-option-space it works
>>>> just fine.
>>>> 
>>>> However, if I try to navigate by word with option left or right arrow, it
>>>> doesn't work. The cursor just doesn't move and voiceover doesn't say
>>>> anything. I can use command arrow to navigate, or just the arrow keys
>>>> themselves, but not using option.
>>>> 
>>>> i also can't use it to enter special characters, like accents and such.
>>>> 
>>>> But it does work when I use it for keyboard commander to open certain
>>>> applications. So it seems very selective about when it works or not. I
>>>> don't understand why this is happening.
>>>> 
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Brandon
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