i must say that i’m happy with the update. wickypeedia reads good with VO witch 
is what i really wanted them to fix.
On 18 Dec 2013, at 7:33 am, CHUCK REICHEL <[email protected]> 
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> Hi Teresa,
> I agree with you! :)
> Most of peoples problems are located in the "chair" ;)
> I make a living every day on a mac pro running pro tools and "never stop" 
> studying  PT & the mac Os.
> To sum it up "don't sing the blues if you haven't paid the dues! :)
> Make sure its a bug before you report it then just "do it" :)
> YMMV
> 
> 
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> 
> On Dec 17, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, alll,
>> 
>> I wasn't going to post to this thread, but I've been thinking about this 
>> issue of accessibility. When I decided to switch to a Mac, I knew I had to 
>> consider the fact that buying a product off the shelf was going to mean 
>> risking some accessibility features. Maybe mainstream developers are 
>> sometimes not aware of how screen-readers work on a visceral level. Maybe 
>> accessibility will not be as much a priority in this case as it would be for 
>> an entity like Freedom Scientific. However, having tried Linuxx and using 
>> various screen-readers and desktops on that platform, I still find that 
>> Voiceover is far more stable and accessible than Orca screen-reader, for 
>> example. I still explore and use various platforms, and believe me, I've 
>> seen my share of bugs. So this update for Mac oSX is nothing to me. It has 
>> some annoyances for sure, but imagine if it shut itself off every five 
>> minutes or restarted the OS or just plain didn't read a good number of apps.
>> 
>> Also, how much are we paying for these OS updates? How much did we pay for 
>> this last full upgrade? Imagine having to pay an upgrade fee every time you 
>> wanted to update just the screen-reader alone.
>> 
>> So I think that before one uses software extensively, one has to consider 
>> some factors. Is this something I want to risk my productivity on? If not, 
>> should I stay with what i know? Do I like to learn new things, and how 
>> tolerant am I of bugs in software? How much hand-holding do I need? If I buy 
>> a product off the shelf, can I work around the accessibility glitches that 
>> are probably going to rear their ugly heads? If not, maybe I should consider 
>> getting something exclusively blind-friendly if I don't want to put up with 
>> accessibility issues.
>> 
>> In short, I really think Apple is doing a fantastic job, considering. And 
>> yes, I would have higher expectations of a Freedom Scientific or Humanware.
>> 
>> Just my two bits of currency. :)
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Sent using Alpine messaging system in Mac OS X Terminal
>> 
>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>> 
>>> BTW, for those who think that Tim Cook just doesn’t give two s**ts about 
>>> accessibility, this is probably well worn a view. Be cynical and say it’s 
>>> just Tim spewing a line or whatever you like, but I kind of don’t get that.
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNEafGCf-kw
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