Hi Sarah, Eileen, and Others, Here are some tips on using the recipe clipping feature in the Mac version of Paprika Recipe Manager. As Laura described, you press the "Save Recipe" button in the toolbar of the Paprika Mac app window to clip recipes from web sites. As a quick overview, you can navigate to recipes in web sites in the Browser view either by using the Google search text field in the HTML area to do a general search of recipe sites, and then select links that you want, followed by using the "Save Recipe" button, or you can select one of the web site links in the HTML area under the headings for "Recommended Sites", such as "Foodnet.com", then search for the the recipe you want at that site's web page, followed by using the "Save Recipe" button to clip the recipe.
Alternatively, since the Browser's "Getting Started" HTML page with information on how to get started with clipping recipes, the general Google search field, and the links to popular recipe sites only loads up when you first launch the Browser view, you can also navigate to the Google search text field on the window toolbar, or use the Bookmarks button on the window toolbar to navigate to popular web sites (including favorites that you add), and then use the "Save Recipe" button on the toolbar to clip recipes. This may be a little less convenient than using the corresponding locations for search and links in the startup browser HTML area unless you set an application specific hotspot for these locations, since there are no pre-existing keyboard shortcuts for navigating to the Google search field or to the Bookmarks on the toolbar of the Paprika Recipe Manager app in Browser view the way there are for Safari, but it only takes a few VO-arrow key presses (or flicks if you use the Trackpad) to move between the HTML area and these buttons on the toolbar. If you prefer to use the "Getting Started" startup HTML page to navigate, you can always move back to it by using VO-Up arrow from the HTML area to navigate to the Browser's "Back" button, VO-space until you get to the beginning, and focus moves to the "Forward" button, then VO-Left arrow back to the (dimmed) "Back" button and VO-Down arrow to return to the HTML area. (Note: I had to use VO-slash to label the four toolbar buttons to the right of the Paprika window's "Minimize", "Close", and "Zoom" buttons. These are "Back", "Forward", "Bookmarks", and "Refresh". The remaining toolbar elements to the right of these buttons are the URL address field, the "Browser - Paprika" view identifier, the "Search" text field, and the "Save Recipe" button.) Here are a few detailed examples of how to clip recipes, written with new users or those who don't yet have the Mac app in mind. Switch from the Recipes view to the Browser view with VO-Down arrow to the "Browser" check box and VO-Space. VO-Left arrow to the HTML content, and interact to read the "Getting Started" instructions. You can launch your first search from within the HTML area instead of from the toolbar. If you have Quick Nav turned on, and you have enabled single letter navigation under VoiceOver Utility in Commanders under the Quick Nav tab by checking the box, you can use all the standard web navigation shortcuts (e.g., "h" to move to the next header or "f" to move to the next text field). So, press "h" to move through the headings for "Getting Started", "How to clip a recipe online", and "Search for recipes". Or press "f" to move directly to the "Google Recipe Search" text field under the "Search for recipes" heading, then toggle Quick Nav mode off (by simultaneously pressing the left and right arrow keys) so you can type in the text field. Using this field, your search will not specify any particular recipe sites, so if I type in text, such as "Latin Black Bean Soup", and then either press "Return" or navigate to the "Search" button and press it, I'll get a Google search of many different recipes sites, with links to results within the HTML area. Navigate through the heading links of the results and activate the one that you want. Now, to just read the recipe content instead of browsing the web page in the HTML area, you VO-Left arrow twice, out of the HTML area to the "Recipes" check box and then to the "Save Recipe" button, and press this button with VO-space. Then you can simply navigate to the pane that now contains the information clipped from the recipe to view the contents. Not all fields may be filled in, and in particular you will want to press the "Categories" button to assign this recipe to an organization category of your selection, like "Soups", "Main Courses", "Deserts", "Salads", etc. This assumes that you have previously created categories under the "Recipes" section of the app using the "Add Category" button -- otherwise the table under the Categories button will be empty, and you will have to edit the recipe later by finding it under the "Uncategorized" category. Press escape to leave the table pop up. You can navigate to and read the ingredients and directions. If the site has additional Nutritional Info, or you want to add Notes, you can also select and examine those tabs. Navigating to the "Done" button at the end and pressing it will save the recipe to your Paprika library. You can also shortcut this by pressing "Return" to save and "escape" to cancel and leave this dialogue window. The actual clipping process is very fast, especially if you choose to read the recipe content from the "Save Recipe" dialogue window instead of the web HTML content in order to decide whether you want to save it. You don't actually have to wait for the full web site contents to finish loading to get the clipped content up for view with the "Save Recipe" button. It's worth adding the category at this time, but most other editing changes, such as rating the difficulty or prep time for a recipe, if this is not already present, can be added later. Since the source URL of the recipe is automatically filled in, you don't even need to note this, unless there are comments about the site that you want to add under the Notes tab. If there is nutrition content in a format that can automatically be recognised, it will also be added on the nutrition tab. Even the process of switching back to "Recipes" view to add a recipe category before specifying this using the "Categories" button in the "Save Recipe" dialogue window is pretty fast. If you didn't create categories (e.g., if you started browsing to clip recipes as your first use of the Paprika app so the table of categories is blank), or if you decide you want a new category that isn't in the table, you can switch to the "Recipes" view, add the category, then switch back to the "Browser" view and press the "Save Recipe" button again to get back to the dialogue window with the clipped recipe content and proceed with saving. The keystroke sequence would go like this: press escape to leave the categories table pop up, then press escape again to leave the "Save Recipes" dialogue window. Switch to "Recipes" view either by using the "View" shortcuts (Command-1 for Recipes, Command-2 for Browser, etc.) or by navigating to the check box option for you desired view in the sidebar and activating it. After pressing two escapes, I can VO-Right arrow to the Recipes check box, VO-Space to switch to "Recipes" view, VO-Right to the "Categories" table, use the Command-Shift-N shortcut to add a new category. VO-Left back to the "Recipes" check box and VO-Down to the "Browser" check box and VO-Space to change views, then VO-Left back to the "Save Recipes" button and press it with VO-Space to get back to the "Save Recipes" dialogue window again to resume your review/editing. The actual navigation process is faster than the description. Also, for new Mac users who are used to the iPhone, the above navigation can be performed with Trackpad gestures (if you're using a Mac laptop or a Desktop Mac with an Apple Magic TrackPad connected via Bluetooth). Just substitute right flicks on the TrackPad for VO-Right arrow and down flicks for VO-Down arrow. Interact with the HTML area with a two finger flick right. Double tap to press buttons and activate links instead of using VO-Space. The help menu (VO-H-H, then TrackPad Commander) lists the equivalent gestures. The first example used a general Google search of all recipe sites to find and save a recipe. Another way to search for recipes is to select a web site from the HTML area of the startup page for the browser and then type in a text search at that web site. If you are starting on the browser app, you can simply navigate to the heading for "Popular Sites" and then select a link to one of the listed sites, like "Foodnet.com". If you used the general search field and saved (or decided not to save) a recipe, and you want to navigate back to the browser startup page, VO-Right arrow from the "Save Recipe" button to the HTML area and then VO-Up arrow to the "Back" button. (Note, this is one of the buttons I had to label, as described earlier.) Keep pressing (VO-Space) the "Back" button until you reach the first page, at which point focus will move to the "Forward" button. VO-Left arrow back to the "Back" button and VO-Down arrow to the HTML area. If Quick Nav is on, navigate to the links for listed sites (for example, move to the "Popular" heading pressing "h", and then explore the links) and activate one of your choice. Generally, there will be a search field for that web site, so you can press "f" and type in your search text (after turning Quick Nav off), then press "Return" to launch a search. You'll have to navigate the links of results to choose a particular recipe web page, but then you can VO-Left arrow twice to the "Save Recipe" button, and proceed as before to read the recipe content in the dialogue area with the option of saving it. Finally, you don't need to run your searches or selection of linked sites from within the HTML area. That's simply a way that I've found convenient. Alternately, you can select your web sites from the "Bookmarks" button on the toolbar of the Paprika Recipe Manager window. Then move to the HTML area and do your search, select your recipe links, etc. and navigate back to the "Save Recipe" button to clip your recipe as before. If you have come across a recipe web page in Safari that you want to clip in Paprika, you can also copy the URL from Safari (Command-L then Command-C) and Command-Tab to switch to the Paprika App, then navigate to the URL address field on the toolbar of the Paprika Browser view, paste this in, and press "Return" to go that page and proceed with recipe clipping. These are just a few different ways to clip recipes using the "Save Recipe" button feature. The Paprika Recipe Manager Mac App is convenient to have for recipe importing, but also because it's easier to integrate many other functions and sources, such as consolidating older scanned recipes, importing recipes from other Mac apps like MacGourmet, Sous Chef, Yummy Soup, etc. Adding annotations, and working with other paired devices, or doing any keyboard-specific work. Yes, you can cut and paste content. It's also possible to bulk import existing text recipes directly into the iPhone or iPad app if you format them with keywords, and then use iTunes file sharing, but it's not so easy to get the formatting right the first you try this, so even this type of recipe importing is easier to learn how to do in the Mac app version. And the big plus of Paprika Recipe Manager over other good recipe apps like MacGourmet is the quality and reliability of its cloud syncing with iOS devices. This is something that apps like MacGourmet still haven't managed to get right. Finally, a response to Alex's comment about the desirability of being able to use a web site interface like Pepperplate. There are design trade-offs in any apps. One advantage of Paprika Recipe Manager over simply storing your recipes as text files in Dropbox is that it is using a database structure rather than simple file structures. That is easier to set up under individual user accounts in the Mac app. What this gets you are the functions that are built into the database relational structure as part of the app. This includes features like the integration of the recipes with meal-planning and calendars, or nutrition information, along with the shopping list functions, and is one of the reasons I like the Paprika Recipe Manager app on iOS. There are probably more ways of navigating and using the Paprika application, so others may wish to post their suggestions. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 3:00:26 AM UTC-10, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > > I've had no luck with food network. Do you paste it in the google search > bar? > On Dec 30, 2013, at 11:17 PM, Laura ann Grymes wrote: > > > I have used the browser and food network or the pioneer woman and had > great success with save recipe. > > I use the browser and go to the recipe I want then vo left arrow to save > recipe and select it. > > then it pops up with name of recipe and prompts to make sure all info is > correct. > > It usually is for both those sites and I change whatever needs to be > then select done. > > It then appears in my recipes . > > Make sure you select which categories you want and it will add the > recipe there. > > > > The developer is nice and responsive if you email them for help. > > Laura Ann > > > > Laura ann Grymes > > agape.welln...@gmail.com <javascript:> > > > > > > > > On Dec 29, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > > > >> Hi: > >> I have Paprika on my Mac, and iOS devices. I cannot figure out how to > clip recipes from the web. I keep getting recipe errors. I can manually add > recipes, add and select categories, as well as email them to people. I > cannot figure how to clip them from the web. > >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.