Thanks Eileen,
I'll keep working on understanding it. Maybe spending about 30
minutes most days on it. No more, or it will overwhelm me, until I
understand it. It would be nice if in the afternoons, I could close my eye
and rest while listening to my daily updates.
On Saturday, January 11, 2014 11:03:19 AM UTC-5, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
>
> Hi David and and All,
>
> I just wanted to point out that these help items are available. I never
> suggested a particular method on how I proceeded. In fact, I have used and
> are still using a wide range of medias and techniques that include the
> onboard help tutorials, podcasts from several sites, these list serves,
> real time chat rooms, Apple accessibility (if needed), and a year's
> subscription at the Apple Store. I have also complemented all of this when
> I have some spare time in reading "Take Control Using Mountain Lion." This
> Mac is not my first computer ever. I come from the PC world where I started
> with sight on an old 8086, with only 300 MG hard drive and using dos. So,
> you all can see that the Mac experience for me is like starting all over.
> We all have very different learning styles and there is no right or wrong.
> I will try anything once because it could be the difference of mastering
> this quicker. What's so wonderful about today is the variety of options
> that we all have to draw on. JMO.
>
> Best,
> Eileen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 11, 2014, at 6:11 AM, David Taylor
> <[email protected]<javascript:>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would suggest a different approach. You should read the Getting Started
> Guide which is also in the help menu, and learn to use the commands help
> which is in the same place, or vi-h-h, in other words, hold down the vo
> keys and press h twice. This would explain much of this to you, and if you
> understand the logic, you’ll understand the terms. VO works well with
> Google Chrome, but not Firefox, you happened to pick an external browser
> which is not accessible, rather than start with what is built in, which is
> always the best way with Apple. You can do so much without getting any
> external apps and Apple ones often work best for most things for most
> people. Hope this helps.
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
> On 11 Jan 2014, at 11:34 am, April Brown <[email protected]<javascript:>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Eileen,
>
> Thanks. I had run the tutorial three times. And nowhere did it mention
> that I had to use a specific browser. It's also not very intuitive. I'm
> going to create my own step-by-step manual, Because there's no way I will
> remember any of those key combinations. I simply don't have the memory.
> It's going to be slow, and I'll work on it a little bit four or five days a
> week. I don't even know what half the terms mean. And I can't find the
> definition anywhere. Strange terms that aren't used in regular computer
> work such as auto web spot, web rotor, web spot, sweet spot. I have no
> idea what these terms mean, or if I need to use them, or how, or why. And
> that is to design websites. I can only imagine how somebody who has barely
> checked their e-mail and maybe Facebook would feel looking at this.
>
> Have a great day,
>
> April
>
> On Friday, January 10, 2014 4:49:41 PM UTC-5, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
>>
>> Hi April,
>>
>> I thought I would mention this to you. I have only had my MacBook Air for
>> a little over 4 months. when I first started, I accessed the Voiceover help
>> menu by pressing CONTROL-OPTION-H. This is the command to open Voiceover
>> help. If you arrow down to a submenu item called "Quick Start Tutorial," it
>> will present you with an interactive tutorial. The other item in the
>> Voiceover help menu that I have gone back to periodically is the "Getting
>> Started Manual" for Voiceover.
>>
>> there is also a Voiceover command help menu. This is accessed by pressing
>> CONTROL-OPTION-H-H (tapping the H twice quickly) This will open a submenu
>> of different categories such as general, keyboard, navigation, etc. When
>> you enter on one of these submenu items, it will open and delineate the
>> keystroke command and its description of what the command does. At the
>> beginning of all of this, I used this the most to commit the keystrokes to
>> memory. Be kind to yourself. It will get better in time. I rarely turn my
>> PC on these days. It's only for the programs that I can't run on the Mac
>> that I reach for the PC. I know in time I will probably venture to place a
>> virtual machine on my air, but that's for another time in place. HTH.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Eileen
>>
>>
>>
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