It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that time, 
it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> unfortunately,
> the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't seem 
> to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available in 
> standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent emails 
> to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the problem still has 
> not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys just to get their 
> attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not one to file a suit at 
> the drop of a hat (its far too much work and stress for any beneficial 
> payoff).
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote:
>> 
>> David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the standard 
>> view to see this setting?
>> 
>> Regards Chris
>> 
>>> On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote:
>>> You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the 
>>> archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this to 
>>> be selected.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: [email protected]
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from GMAIL, 
>>>> it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 entries in it 
>>>> right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my emails that I want 
>>>> aren't stored locally.
>>>> 
>>>> How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not have 
>>>> it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to use the 
>>>> web interface?
>>>> 
>>>> -eric
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should 
>>>>> be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail just 
>>>>> permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time 
>>>>> Machine restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure 
>>>>> out time machine.
>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can be 
>>>>>> moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been 30 
>>>>>> days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -eric
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the 
>>>>>>> folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently 
>>>>>>> in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always 
>>>>>>> emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the email in the 
>>>>>>> proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly 
>>>>>>> that the deleting of the sent mail folder also overrode the label and 
>>>>>>> folder I had moved the message in to? If this is the case I am totally 
>>>>>>> screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this is the case then this 
>>>>>>> gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not sure why an email 
>>>>>>> that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only be in the sent 
>>>>>>> mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or archiving it to a 
>>>>>>> folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take it out of the 
>>>>>>> sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed myself 
>>>>>>> by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I 
>>>>>>> am wrong,
>> but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I 
>> labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself.
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