Yes. You can't have your iCloud address replace an email address that's already there as iCloud is an ID itself. The article does say that.
-----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: Friday, 21 February 2014 11:35 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Changing from Gmail to iCloud okay, so does this mean my icloud email address cannot become my primary id that replaces the gmail one? Or does it mean that it can be used interchangeably with my gmail one and so I could just drop the gmail one? Would I lose purchases if I dropped the gmail one unless I replace it with another ID that is different from my icloud one? -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness." (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Feb 20, 2014, at 4:32 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Cheryl, > > According to Apple, you are totally able to change the eMail address associated with your Apple ID. To see details, visit: > > http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5621 > > The main thing to note in here is the conditions up front. One of them being that it can't be an iCloud account as the iCloud account is actually already an Apple ID. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Feb 20, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cahom...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I have a couple of questions about this. >> >> 1. I could leave my gmail account open if I do this and use forwarding through icloud and keep my gmail address as my Apple ID. If I really wanted to eventually get rid of gmail, is there a way to change Apple ID that then would put all of my purchases under the icloud apple id or would I always be having to sign in with the old gmail id to get those purchases? >> >> 2. I found an article that talks about copying your email to cloud folders (probably talks about copying instead of moving so you don't make a mistake and then find your mail is gone forever!), then getting what is left in All Mail, and it talks about going into gmail and making sure your emails only have one label so you don't get duplicates. Is that still relevant advice and if so, how do you go about checking on the labels or should one just leave it alone and let there be duplicates though it would be better not to have them. Here is the article I found at Lifehacker; it is from 2011. >> >> Article from Lifehacker >> You can start fresh with your new iCloud account, but maybe you want access to your email archives all in one place. In that case, you'll have to migrate your current Gmail inbox over. It isn't the quickest process, but we've found that plugging both accounts into an IMAP program--like Apple's Mail--makes it fairly straightforward. Just make sure you follow the instructions below to the letter. Read through them first, so you understand what you're doing, and then go through each step, one by one. If you make a mistake, you could severely confuse your iCloud inbox and have to start over. Here's what you'll want to do:P >> >> * First, set up both Gmail and iCloud in Mail.app. Setting up Gmail is easy, and creating a new iCloud email address is as simple as going into System Preferences > iCloud, signing in with your Apple ID, and creating a new Mail account. It should show up in Mail when you're done. >> * Let Mail download all your messages. You'll see all your Gmail labels set up as folders. Note that iCloud doesn't use labels like Gmail does, so you'll need to go into Gmail and make sure all of your messages are assigned only one label--otherwise, you'll get duplicate messages in your iCloud account. >> * When you're ready to migrate, head into Mail.app and click on Gmail's "Sent Messages" folder. Go to Mailbox > Use This Mailbox For > Sent. Repeat this process with the Deleted Messages folder as well. >> * Now, you're ready to start moving messages over. Start with the inbox. Go to Gmail's inbox in Mail.app and select all the messages within. Right-click on them and hit Copy To > Inbox > iCloud. This should copy all those messages over to iCloud's inbox. Do not drag and drop the messages; that will remove them from Gmail, which we do not want yet. >> * Repeat this process for each of your user-created folders--that is, all your Gmail "labels" except All Mail, Important, Starred, and Spam. Create a new folder on the iCloud account (by right-clicking on the iCloud inbox and hitting "New Mailbox), click on the corresponding folder from your Gmail account, select all the messages, and copy them to the new iCloud folder. Be sure to copy over all your sent messages, too, even though they're a Gmail-created folder! Note that if one of your folders is particularly big, you may run into some errors when copying messages. If you get an error, delete all the messages in the iCloud folder you're trying to fill and try the copy again. After another try or two, it should work. >> * When you're done, you should have a good portion of your messages migrated to the iCloud account. The only messages missing will be the ones that didn't have a label, and weren't in your inbox or sent messages folder. To migrate these, we'll need to delete everything we've migrated so far, and move them from the "All Mail" folder into a new "Archive" folder in iCloud. So, go back to your Sent Messages, Inbox, and other user-created labels and delete all those messages--using the Mail.app interface--from your Gmail account. >> * Lastly, copy everything from the All Mail folder in to iClouds Archive folder, as you did with the other folders. When you're done, your inbox should look just like it did in Gmail, and you're ready to start using iCloud Mail. >> If you want to undelete those messages from your Gmail account just in case, you can head to the Gmail web interface, select all the messages in your Trash, and move them to your inbox. Then, re-archive them all in case you want to move back to Gmail later >> >> Thanks. >> >> -- >> Cheryl >> >> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >> thrown in the trash! >> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >> His joy for my despairing tears! >> And now, every day: >> "This I call to mind, >> and therefore I have hope: >> The steadfast love of the Lord >> never ceases; >> his mercies never come to an end; >> they are new every morning; >> great is your faithfulness." >> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 19, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Terresa, I appreciate you getting back to me. I didn't see this before I posed my other question, Lol. zI want to change my email and hopefully not have to change my apple Id, sort of leave it the way it is since I'm getting my iTunes match under that Id and what not, but just trying to make mail a tad bit more manageable. Thanks for giving me the suggestions though and i'll definitely be doing that in steps, it might be easier that way. Thanks again and sorry for sounding like a newbie, but just trying to get it all figured out. Take care and talk to you soon. >>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>>> It's not difficult, but it's a little time-consuming. I've switched my email groups over, but decided to leave the facebook and a couple of lists on Gmail. I'd suggest doing it in steps. For many groups, such as Gmail and Yahoo, there are instructions with page links for how to change your subscription. Most iCloud stuff can be set up in mac Mail, except for mail filters, which, if you want to use mailboxes across your devices, you''ll have to set up on the iCloud Mail website, which is: >>>> http://www.icloud.com/#mail . >>>> >>>> HtH, >>>> Teresa >>>> >>>> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan >>>> >>>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm strongly considering changing my email from Gmail to iCloud, just because since all my devices now are apple products and I use iCloud constantly now. Is it difficult to possibly move everything over, and say change email for Facebook and all that good stuff? Just curious, I've not configured iCloud enough times yet to know the ins and outs. 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