Hey Teresa, No not long winded but helpful. Thanks for explaining. The strange thing is I couldn't get VO back slash to expand the messages in a thread but in the same place the right arrow did the trick, will have to play around with this, as I definitely now see some major benefits to using this view for mail with threading instead of the classic view. Thanks again On Feb 26, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> wrote:
> There are several ways to go about it. When you're focused on a conversation > in the message list, you can press VO-backslash or right-arrow to open it. I > consider the arrow method to be less reliable, though. Then you can > down-arrow through the messages in that conversation. You can also press VO-J > when on a conversation in the message list. This will take you to the text of > the first message. The only problem with that method for me is that in order > to go to another message body, you have to stop interacting with that message > text, then VO right. I use this method myself: I find a conversation in the > list, stop interacting with the message column, then VO right to the content > area. You can VO-left- and right-arrow through the conversation. The only > problem a lot of people have with this is that you hear "embedded" a lot and > the sender and subject of the message when you do this. This doesn't really > bother me. Opening the conversation with vO-backslash is the other method I > use, because I havd set my preview to five lines, and I can hear enough of > the message that way to find out whether I want to hear more when I interact > with the content area. > > there are a couple of settings to check. First, in the viewing tab of Mail > preferences, set it up the way you want, whether you want the last message > first or vice versa. Also, if you use "related messages" these will show up > again in your mailbox and be included in your message count. Otherwise, the > message count in the conversation doesn't include past messages. > > A very important thing to keep in mind when using the new view is that the > messages will be marked as read once you've focused on them, unless you > decide not to use the preview pane. > > Sorry about the long-winded post, but it's a wee bit complicated. :) > > Hth, > teresa > > "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too > dark to read."--Groucho Marx > > On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:54 AM, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I am trying to finally learn using the newer mail layout in other words not >> classic view. Two questions . One when viewing a thread if you come across a >> message in the thread that you don't want to delete is there a way to jump >> to th next message in the thread? I often delete the messages I have read >> but like to save the messages I might want to reference later. >> >> also when you delete messages and a new message comes in to that thread do >> the messages you have already deleted reappear in the thread count or since >> you deleted them the response is just treated as a new individual message. >> Thanks, >> On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> For me, when coming upon a conversation, I press return on it, which opens >>> the entire conversation and the first message in the conversation will >>> start being read by VO. I Stop Interacting with the message, then I can go >>> VO-right or VO-left reading each of the messages in the thread. I can >>> press the Delete key to remove the message I'm reading and can press cmd-w >>> to close the entire thread and again press the Delete key to remove the >>> whole thread of messages. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:29 AM, Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Works real well. Just have mail orgnaize messages by conversation. Then, >>>> when you come across a thread of messages, you will be informed how many >>>> messages there are. To actually open the conversation, use the right >>>> arrow key alone. Now, you can move down message by message. To close the >>>> conversation, use the left arrow. Then, when you press the delete key, >>>> you take out all messages in that conversation. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>>> built-in! >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>>> >>>> On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:08 AM, Daniel McGee <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello all, for those who use it. How do you use conversation threading on >>>>> the Mac with Mail? >>>>> Previously, I was using the standard view with Mail where all messages >>>>> come in at once and arrowing up to hear each one with the preview pain >>>>> turned on. I have also messed around with the classic view of mail but >>>>> didn't really like that much because I found at times I was losing my >>>>> place when I get a lot of messages e.g. from this list. So have switched >>>>> back to the standard view. >>>>> Now though, I'd like to have a go at conversation threading and for those >>>>> who use it could you tell me how it works and more importantly how >>>>> effectively you can use it with Voiceover. >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks >>>>> >>>>> Daniel >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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