Hi Teresa. What used to work really well for me, is opening the conversation with right-arrow, then using VO-J to interact with each message. I press the delete key to get rid of the message, and I'm right back on my message list where I can hear the name of the next participant in the conversation. I prefer this method because if you open the message by pressing Return or command-O, you get the subject name spoken at the beginning of every message, then when you delete that message, the name of the mailbox you're in is spoken. It's an efficiency drain. The only trouble with this method I use is that as of Mavericks, pressing VO-J doesn't work every time. I've seen this on my partner's and my Mac so it's not just specific to me. When I get into this mode, it requires three presses of VO-J to go from being int eh conversation list to the message body. Sometimes it works as it should, with one press, but most of the time it does not. It's a shame that one never got fixed. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org
On 27/02/2014, at 8:26 am, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> wrote: > There are several ways to go about it. When you're focused on a conversation > in the message list, you can press VO-backslash or right-arrow to open it. I > consider the arrow method to be less reliable, though. Then you can > down-arrow through the messages in that conversation. You can also press VO-J > when on a conversation in the message list. This will take you to the text of > the first message. The only problem with that method for me is that in order > to go to another message body, you have to stop interacting with that message > text, then VO right. I use this method myself: I find a conversation in the > list, stop interacting with the message column, then VO right to the content > area. You can VO-left- and right-arrow through the conversation. The only > problem a lot of people have with this is that you hear "embedded" a lot and > the sender and subject of the message when you do this. This doesn't really > bother me. Opening the conversation with vO-backslash is the other method I > use, because I havd set my preview to five lines, and I can hear enough of > the message that way to find out whether I want to hear more when I interact > with the content area. > > there are a couple of settings to check. First, in the viewing tab of Mail > preferences, set it up the way you want, whether you want the last message > first or vice versa. Also, if you use "related messages" these will show up > again in your mailbox and be included in your message count. Otherwise, the > message count in the conversation doesn't include past messages. > > A very important thing to keep in mind when using the new view is that the > messages will be marked as read once you've focused on them, unless you > decide not to use the preview pane. > > Sorry about the long-winded post, but it's a wee bit complicated. :) > > Hth, > teresa > > "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too > dark to read."--Groucho Marx > > On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:54 AM, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I am trying to finally learn using the newer mail layout in other words not >> classic view. Two questions . One when viewing a thread if you come across a >> message in the thread that you don't want to delete is there a way to jump >> to th next message in the thread? I often delete the messages I have read >> but like to save the messages I might want to reference later. >> >> also when you delete messages and a new message comes in to that thread do >> the messages you have already deleted reappear in the thread count or since >> you deleted them the response is just treated as a new individual message. >> Thanks, >> On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> For me, when coming upon a conversation, I press return on it, which opens >>> the entire conversation and the first message in the conversation will >>> start being read by VO. I Stop Interacting with the message, then I can go >>> VO-right or VO-left reading each of the messages in the thread. I can >>> press the Delete key to remove the message I'm reading and can press cmd-w >>> to close the entire thread and again press the Delete key to remove the >>> whole thread of messages. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:29 AM, Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Works real well. Just have mail orgnaize messages by conversation. Then, >>>> when you come across a thread of messages, you will be informed how many >>>> messages there are. To actually open the conversation, use the right >>>> arrow key alone. Now, you can move down message by message. To close the >>>> conversation, use the left arrow. Then, when you press the delete key, >>>> you take out all messages in that conversation. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>>> built-in! >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>>> >>>> On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:08 AM, Daniel McGee <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello all, for those who use it. How do you use conversation threading on >>>>> the Mac with Mail? >>>>> Previously, I was using the standard view with Mail where all messages >>>>> come in at once and arrowing up to hear each one with the preview pain >>>>> turned on. I have also messed around with the classic view of mail but >>>>> didn't really like that much because I found at times I was losing my >>>>> place when I get a lot of messages e.g. from this list. So have switched >>>>> back to the standard view. >>>>> Now though, I'd like to have a go at conversation threading and for those >>>>> who use it could you tell me how it works and more importantly how >>>>> effectively you can use it with Voiceover. >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks >>>>> >>>>> Daniel >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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