Hi, you said: " > There is no native multi touch on these devices. " Who said otherwise ?
You can call my experience with maemo multitouch side-effect. Ok. But it works for me. I use both iPod Touch and maemo. It works how it works but works (side-effect or alike) ;) you asked " have you ever actually done any coding for maemo " Tried hard to loggin into maemo, 3 times failed and gave up. Logging procedure problems. __________________________________________________________________ There is no such facility like Think-Tank at Nokia, so no chance to develop and discuss multitouch for Nokia/maemo. Moreover, one or more guys from this dev list claimed that discussing multitouch for Nokia maemo was spam. Wish you success anyway. Darius --- On Thu, 4/9/08, gary liquid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: gary liquid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Nokia - lost second chance - another multitouch by Apple patented > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org, "Simon Budig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thursday, 4 September, 2008, 12:17 PM > Darius, > > You say you work with lots of groups, have you ever > actually done any coding > for maemo and obtained actual coordinates of the distinct > multitouch > hotspots as you touch it? > I would love to see examples of your code because > multitouch would be a nice > feature to have. > > You will find I am actively involved in making the most out > of these nokia > devices and have investigated a great number of options and > directions for > the input and output side of these devices and multitouch > is something I > have put quite a bit of brainpower towards. > > The effect you see when sideways scrolling is exactly what > I specified in my > earlier mail, but saying it is multitouch is flat out > wrong, it is simply > the sideeffect of changing the centre of gravity. > > With a true multitouch surface the running application > obtains multiple > distinct hotspots, that is each finger produces its own > hotspot at a > specific location, the surface can track multiple hotspots. > The event subsystem must be geared to handle these hotspots > and the > applications themselves need to know what to do with them. > > The "multi touch" effect you are seeing is the > averaging of your distinct > fingertips into a single cursor location. Applications for > maemo expect and > obtain a single cursor location and know nothing about > multiple hotspots > (the touchscreen simulates events to move a single virtual > mouse pointer) > > There is no native multi touch on these devices. > > That does not say that it is impossible to obtain lower > resolution multiple > contact points and an expanding/contracting zone from this > averaged data - > it is something I have actively investigated and tested in > code on the > device (thank you x-fade, i've not forgotten). > > Gary > > > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Darius Jack > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > My dear friend, > > > > I welcome your comments on multitouch howto. > > I work in my spare time with one multitouch group in > Japan, another in UK, > > one again in Sweden, not to say New York, MIT , UoT. > > So multitouch in maemo works as it works. > > I can use 2 fingers to move web page horizontally ( it > works for semantic > > pages). > > And once again. > > It works without stylus with 2 fingers only. > > Just have a try not guess. > > > > This is just the reason for a subject line in my > thread. > > maemo by Nokia was very very close to multitouch > interfacing > > and still is. > > > > I was really surprised to hear , some maemo developers > try to close the > > multitouch thread not to let us sing one day > > We are the Champions. > > > > Multitouch is exactly about maemo development. > > > > Darius > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/9/08, gary liquid > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > From: gary liquid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: Nokia - lost second chance - another > multitouch by Apple > > patented > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org, "Simon > Budig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: Wednesday, 3 September, 2008, 4:16 PM > > > You obviously do not realise how touchscreens > work. > > > > > > When you press in 2 locations the click point > will be > > > located at the centre > > > of gravity between those points. > > > This is why if you accidentally catch your screen > with your > > > wrist whilst > > > operating with the stylus the pointer will shoot > off in a > > > random direction. > > > > > > do some reading up, and also - the touchpad on > the iphone > > > etc is a > > > completely different technology. > > > Take the stylus you use for touching your nokia > and use it > > > on the iphone > > > screen. > > > > > > I have to wonder though, if you are so impressed > with their > > > technology why > > > you haven't you moved to using their devices > fulltime? > > > > > > gary (lcuk on #maemo) > > > > I am always impressed with intelligent high-tech > gizmos, solutions, > > technologies. > > Making maemo multitouch is still an open choice. > > patent claims make set no special restrictions to > development of > > other multitouch solutions - interfaces. > > > > We are the leaders. Aren't we ? > > Visit my multitouch Microsoft surface computing > Semantic Magazine to learn > > more about other multitouch technologies. > > > > Darius > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Darius Jack > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > Sorry Simon, but it works as > semi-multitouch. > > > > > > > > I have discovered this feature opening my > Semantic WWW > > > Magazines > > > > in maemo. > > > > With 2 fingers pressed I can move Welcome > page > > > horizontally, like in iPod > > > > Touch. > > > > > > > > Darius > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/9/08, Simon Budig > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Simon Budig > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Subject: Re: Nokia - lost second chance > - another > > > multitouch by Apple > > > > patented > > > > > To: maemo-developers@maemo.org > > > > > Date: Tuesday, 2 September, 2008, 3:49 > PM > > > > > Darius Jack ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > > > > > > [...] N 770 ( first in the world > multitouch > > > Internet > > > > > tablet). N 770 > > > > > > was really multitouch gizmo (just > try to > > > move web page > > > > > with 2 > > > > > > fingers). > > > > > > > > > > You're wrong here: what you're > seeing > > > when pressing > > > > > multiple fingers on > > > > > the touchscreen is some kind of > > > "average" > > > > > position. Typically the > > > > > "mousepointer" ends up in the > middle > > > between the > > > > > two fingers pressing > > > > > the screen, just try it in the drawing > > > application. > > > > > > > > > > The scrolling in the webbrowser just > made you > > > believe that > > > > > it would be > > > > > doing something sensible, it really > does not. > > > > > > > > > > Bye, > > > > > Simon > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > http://simon.budig.de/ > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > http://www.kernelconcepts.de/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > maemo-developers mailing list > > > > > maemo-developers@maemo.org > > > > > > > > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > maemo-developers mailing list > > > > maemo-developers@maemo.org > > > > > > > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
