On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, David Greaves wrote: > Matan Ziv-Av wrote: >> On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, David Greaves wrote: >> >>> Matan Ziv-Av wrote: >>>> On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Andrew Flegg wrote: >>>>> * Use of /opt is perhaps now a QA requirement for Extras >>>>> * Can we somehow add a /opt check into minimae/maemian? Is it >>>>> possible, and is it sensible? >>>> >>>> Please recall that maemo5 is not the only maemo. Maemo4 is the latest >>>> availble for N800/N810 and maemo2 is the latest officailly available on >>>> 770. Many packages can compile from same source for all versions. Don't >>>> add artificial obstacles to force developers to make their packages >>>> incompatible with older versions. >>> >>> *cough* Mer *cough* >> >> Call me when Mer is a reasonable replacement for OS2008 on N810. Until >> then, please don't try to fragment the community for no reason except for >> planned obsolescence. > > Had I ranted on how it was essential to do something different to provide > definite support for Mer then that would have been a reasonable although > impolite response. > However since it was a gentle reminder that Mer *may* be on the horizon as yet > another environment that packagers may like to support from the same tarball > - and one that doesn't currently make use of /opt - then I really don't > understand it. > > However I don't see much evidence that Nokia are considering the legacy > community here - over time application writers are likely to package for the > current platform and it's going to make supporting the N810 and older even > harder for the few of us that are working very, very hard on a way to extend > the > useable life of those devices. > Now this /opt thing may not affect packaging for Maemo4 or Maemo2 or Mer - but > I'm not convinced that that is down to luck, not design. > (However if the decision to use /opt and the current proposed solution *does* > have "supporting Maemo4" as a requirement and not just a side-effect then I > apologise.) > > Oh, and Matan, having potential users tell us to shut up and "call them when > it's ready" is frankly offensive. If you want your N810 (I assume) to have > something that runs apps from fremantle-extras then come and lend a hand.
There seems to be a misunderstanding here. I opined that the suggested change might make it harder to make packages compatible between fremantle and OS2008, and that this is a bad thing. I then interpreted your "*cough* Mer *cough*" comment as saying that compatibility with OS2008 is irrelevant, since Mer is expected to be installed on every N800/N810 device. My reply merely meant to say that Mer is not currently an acceptable replacement for most N800/N810 users, and that I do not expect it to be in the near future, thus having packages compatible with OS2008 whenever possible is an important goal. This is not a slight on Mer or Mer developers, but mere statment of facts as I see them. I am a user and developer of Mer, and it is my preferred OS on smartq devices, but is not yet a replacement for OS2008 on N810. Power management and compatibility with some applications are the main issues I see right now. We actually seem to be in agreement here: Fremantle packaging decisions should take other systems (OS2008, Mer, etc.) into account. -- Matan. _______________________________________________ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
