On Jan 20, 2010, at 23:21, Ryan Abel wrote:

> On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Jeff Moe wrote:
> 
>> I've seen frequent mentions of how distinct maemo.org is from Nokia. But the 
>> reality seems that nothing at Maemo can really happen without Nokia's tacit 
>> approval. Is there anyone that has server access that isn't paid (directly 
>> or indirectly) by Nokia? Can we start getting the servers admin'd by 
>> community admins instead of depending upon Nokia? A first step would be to 
>> document (on the *outside/public*) wiki the current server arrangement. 
>> Another good step would be to get DNS off their servers. Until that happens, 
>> the whole "maemo is distinct from Nokia" is just a façade.
> 
> Maemo is a trademark owned by Nokia and used for their software platform and 
> their products. You're confusing Maemo and maemo.org (maemo.org being the 
> community-owned website). In doing so, you're confusing the discussion and 
> making it much more difficult to participate and arrive at a useful 
> conclusion. "Maemo" and "maemo.org" are not equivalent interchangeable terms.

Nor are they as distinct as you would imply. 

Jeremiah
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