On Jan 20, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Jeff Moe wrote:

> On Wednesday 20 January 2010 19:21:18 Ryan Abel wrote:
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Jeff Moe wrote:
>> 
>>> I've seen frequent mentions of how distinct maemo.org is from Nokia. But 
>>> the reality seems that nothing at Maemo can really happen without Nokia's 
>>> tacit approval. Is there anyone that has server access that isn't paid 
>>> (directly or indirectly) by Nokia? Can we start getting the servers admin'd 
>>> by community admins instead of depending upon Nokia? A first step would be 
>>> to document (on the *outside/public*) wiki the current server arrangement. 
>>> Another good step would be to get DNS off their servers. Until that 
>>> happens, the whole "maemo is distinct from Nokia" is just a façade.
>> 
>> Maemo is a trademark owned by Nokia and used for their software platform and 
>> their products. You're confusing Maemo and maemo.org (maemo.org being the 
>> community-owned website). In doing so, you're confusing the discussion and 
>> making it much more difficult to participate and arrive at a useful 
>> conclusion. "Maemo" and "maemo.org" are not equivalent interchangeable terms.
> 
> Yep! Definitely confusing them. They do seem much one and the same to me 
> though. It seems we've come to some useful conclusions, regardless
> 
> Though how does the community "own" maemo.org? I mean, can we really just 
> walk off with it and leave Nokia behind? I doubt it. Can we see the finances 
> of this website, please?

Yes, we could walk off with it and move it elsewhere if we had consensus to do 
so. $$$ is always a sensitive topic and not one that is widely advertised even 
in the most Free of Free Software projects. Especially not when corporate 
sponsors are involved.
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