Hi Wolfgang, *, On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 13:10:08 +0200 Wolfgang Bornath <[email protected]> wrote:
> 2011/8/1 Thomas Lottmann <[email protected]>: > > Hello, > > > > I should have written this mail much sooner, but finally, I am totally, > > completely and starting to be hatefully fed up of these tools. > > > > The Mandriva/Mageia tools that manage the network on computers, especially > > the wireless networks are completely dysfunctional. While the Network Center > > does not seem to even communicate with the system tools to know what is > > happening during the link setup, it does not auto-refresh network lists > > properly. > > > > Since 2010.1 now even mixes up itself in it's own network scripts (the ones > > stored in wireless.d). This maxes it wrongly detect numerous wireless points > > (he seen WPA2 Enterperise hotspots as opened or WEP, or more nerving, > > becomes incapable or storing the right authentication information). A tool > > that breaks itself is a complete shame! I agree, I had this happening to me as well. I'm running Mageia 1, the stable distribution, not a Cauldron installation. I have already entered a bug report about my problem (see https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1263) and it is annoying. without any reason (at least, not one, that I can see) my wireless connection disconnects and every try to reconnect ends in failure. And if I check then the configuration, the connection is set to either OPEN or WEP instead of WPA2. > > > > The GUI is also appalling. Despite it's numerous possibilities, it is a mess > > and 60% of it cannot be used by something else than the system or a network > > expert. I don't have a specific opinion about the GUI. When it works, it's fine. I am wondering sometimes, what all those options are for, but since now, I've always managed to get a working connection, so this is not a mayor issue for me. > > > > The code itself is undocumented and it extremely difficult to read. > > > > These tools are getting really bad and not working properly anyway since a > > long time now. So either we fix it and improve it (recoding?), either we > > definitely switch to Network Manager. I am ready to participate if necessary > > (despite my lack of competence), but I do not want to see these tools 'as > > is' on my computer anymore, and no longer want to see these issues that down > > Mageia's reputation in comparison to other popular projects here such as > > Arch, Fedora or Ubuntu, who do have proper tools delivered by default. > > > > This is not the first time I complain about this tool. We should not leave > > this unchanged. It is far too annoying and pushing to so much loss of time. I can't say anything about the code, I haven't looked at it. (Not that I understand much about coding). ;) > > While I cannot confirm the problems you are talking about in former > Mandriva (2010.x) nor in Mageia 1, I do have the problems in Mageia > Cauldron, mostly caused by (guess what?) - network-manager! I reported > about this in the forum > (https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=869). > Just current case: after an update run in Cauldron my wifi does not > connect, then connects and disconnects again after a few seconds. > After trying several measurements like removing the setup-script, > removing the connection in MCC, etc., all without result, I > de-installed network-manager and configured wifi again by the draktool > without NM - it works now. > > As you see, my "mileage" varies from yours. :) Yes, indeed, the experiences vary. But this doesn't mean, that one opinion or experience can be dismissed because you have some different experiences. (Wobo, this is not meant as a comment to you personally, it's more a general comment!) Sigrid
