> You are right in several points, but... :-) > > Le 01/08/2011 15:59, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > > On 1 August 2011 15:29, Thomas Lottmann<[email protected]> wrote: > >> The other main issue I see si that Drakxnet is coded in Perl and uses a lot > >> of perl scripts, like the drakxtools. This makes it hard to maintain, and to > >> improve. > > That's just your own POV. > > Not the POV of maintainers. > > Are there other maintainers for this tool than it's creators or > long-time maintainers? This is not only my POV, but also what I have > heard from a variety of people since the time I participate a little. > Anyway... > > >> I know it works fine for several people. Personally, I am often having > >> issues because it's disconnects on it's own, > > This has nothing to do with drakconnect that don't handle that. > > If the network disconnected, that's the issue between the routers, > > the network, the kernel, .... > > and no longer sees any networks when it should. > > which points to either network issue or kernel driver issue, not drakconnect. > > Other people not using Mageia do not get as often disconnected as me > when using public hotspots. Mageia wireless tools seem to have more > difficulty to connect and keep the connections to hotspots that have a > low (not bad, low) quality signal, while Windows keeps connected, or, > quickly reconnects automatically. > > Meanwhile, I have to reconnect manually and, more frustrating, it seems > the wireless utility sometime attempts to reconnect automatically, but I > can't clearly know. > > The other bizarre thing I often see is when the hotspots he sees fall > from 35 to 0 (or 1, the hotspot he's tryign to connect). This is not > normal, I have not observed this NM, Windows or Mac OS X tools. > > > > >> Then it has difficulty reconnecting. > > Same, reconnecting is the job of dhcp-client, ifplugd and the like. > > Not drakconnect's job. > > I can't tell. I can only observe and I do not invent what I describe > (and have already described in the past). :-) > > >> Windows, Fedora and Ubuntu's wireless tools work absolutely smoothly at my > >> school. And now, other people testing Mageia as school are having the same > >> issues I have. This is frustrating and I can assure you these home-made > >> network tools have to be improved and fixed. > > Well, Fedora tool (really NM) has its own bugs. > True. > > And I'm pretty sure people who've used MS, Apple or whatever OS/tool > > they're used to, have also encountered issues > True. But these issues are less evident to find apparently, and do not > affect that much user experience. > > When a user wants to connect to a wireless hotspot, he should just click > connect, enter his IDs and it should work fluently. If it is often the > case with Mageia tools with a personal hotspot and when you're next to > it, it is not always the case when you use it everyday, and, sadly, > other tools do better and have a more stable and smooth wireless > connectivity, even if they also encournter issues. Their issues are not > that much affecting user experience like the ones I have described. > >> If you want to, I can attempt to make a list of the isses and incoherencies > >> I find, although they are not hard to see. > > Indeed, please just fill in _several_ bugs (one report per issue) > > against drakx-net > > I will do one report for each issue I find in drakxnet, with as much > details as possible, yes. I shall also do a video capture of the issue > if it can help. this will take me a lot of time, but I will do it. > > >> But as I mentionned earlier, this > >> is a tool that is hard to maintain, and I cannot learn perl right now. > > That's just _your_ personnal though, not his maintainer's. > > aka "this is a tool that is hard to maintain" really means "you would not be > > able to maintain it" > Right. > >> If NetworkManager is easier to maintain and works fine, then I think it can > >> be a better solution. Just offering or trying to find solutions, because > >> this tool seriously does not work properly here. > > it has its own flaws too... > Yes, but it does not confuses itself with it's own configuration files. > Clearly, all programs can have flaws, but sincerely, it is not working > well in Mageia and is not pleasant to use. Otherwise I would not report > again about it. ;-) >
btw, i think ALL mageia tools must be redesigned to match the medium usability level of nowadays... cheers, Marcello
