'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 18/09/11 18:57 did gyre and gimble: > 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 17/09/11 17:26 did gyre and gimble: >> On 17 September 2011 17:15, Mageia Team <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> colin <colin> 0.61-2.mga2: >>> + Revision: 144548 >>> - Remove systemd units (superceded by alsa-utils) >>> - Remove snd-usb-audio modprobe rules (unnecessary) >> >> Did you fixed the war against webcam another way? > > Is this a problem of webcam mics not working if they are present during > boot? If not, can you remember the problem better? > > If so, no I've not fixed, but will find an official way that we can > submit upstream.
Whoops, it seems this conversation went off list accidentally. TV clarified that the problem the snd-usb-audio modprobe rule solved was that of webcams getting the card0 slot on boot and pushing the normal, built in audio system to card1. As this problem attempts to resolve the underlying limitations of alsa (not preserving the audio device order) in a generic way (specific index= arguments could be added to your own specific hardware to solve it also), and considering that device order really shouldn't matter when PulseAudio is used (it has it's own built in system for determining the "priority" of devices when a first boot with a new user is encountered so that the correct defaults will be picked on first boot and there after it's the user's choice), I'm not really inclined to attempt to fix this "bug". If people feel super strongly about it I can look into it, but I think it's really a matter of "tough love" for the non-PA case if it means we have to put in lots of crazy work arounds like this. Opinions welcome. Col -- Colin Guthrie mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mageia Contributor [http://www.mageia.org/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/]
