On 19 September 2011 16:14, Colin Guthrie <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Did you fixed the war against webcam another way? >>>> >>>> Is this a problem of webcam mics not working if they are present during >>>> boot? If not, can you remember the problem better? >>>> >>>> If so, no I've not fixed, but will find an official way that we can >>>> submit upstream. >>> >>> Whoops, it seems this conversation went off list accidentally. >>> >>> TV clarified that the problem the snd-usb-audio modprobe rule solved was >>> that of webcams getting the card0 slot on boot and pushing the normal, >>> built in audio system to card1. >>> >>> As this problem attempts to resolve the underlying limitations of alsa >>> (not preserving the audio device order) in a generic way (specific >>> index= arguments could be added to your own specific hardware to solve >>> it also), and considering that device order really shouldn't matter when >>> PulseAudio is used (it has it's own built in system for determining the >>> "priority" of devices when a first boot with a new user is encountered >>> so that the correct defaults will be picked on first boot and there >>> after it's the user's choice), I'm not really inclined to attempt to fix >>> this "bug". >>> >>> If people feel super strongly about it I can look into it, but I think >>> it's really a matter of "tough love" for the non-PA case if it means we >>> have to put in lots of crazy work arounds like this. >>> >>> Opinions welcome. >> >> Not all people use PA. >> We even have options in draksound in order to disable it... >> Hence we must still support the case were PA isn't around... > > Yeah, but by the same token, turning off PA is obviously not part of the > recommended config. > > If people turn off PA, they have to expect a less integrated solution. > > And it's not as if things don't work. It's just that their systems would > require a little more configuration than before. But in turning off PA, > that's pretty much what they are signing up for anyway. > > Hence my desire not to fix this "bug" when it's already fixed in the > default setup. > > But if this is a show stopper for more people, I will see what we can do.
What about reverting a change :-) ?
