W dniu 08.12.2011 11:04, Samuel Verschelde pisze:
Hi,
I consider the (first phase of) the adoption campaign finished, so here are some
stats about it, and an opening for discussion about what to do next.
We had 4931 packages without a maintainer, we now have 2043, so I think we can
say that the campaign was a success in this regard : nearly 3000 source
packages have found a maintainer.
See http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/unmaintained.txt for the list of orphan
packages.
Out of 57 packagers with submit rights (I might have missed a few that got
submit rights recently, but it wont change the results much):
- 35 are now "full" (or even took too much packages)
- 11 answered at some point that they were going to have a look at the list
and maybe grab more packages, but didn't give me feedback after that, even
after a new mail sent. We can suppose that they are now "full" too.
- 6 are inactive (no packaging in months)
- 5 well-known active packagers never answered in 3 months either to the
mailing list or to my direct mails (sent at @mageia.org addresses), which is a
bit disappointing considering the amount of time I put into this campaign, but
I want to thank the vast majority who was really willing to help in this
campaign.
Hello, I just inform that I was collecting the data for this action, the
stats are here http://kamil.mageia.org.pl/MageiaStats/ it says about the
daily ration of the maintained and the unmaintained packages + how many
full-packagers maintain at least a single package.
The conclusion is that for most packagers the maintainers database is now up
to date, with maybe a few more orphan packages that could find a maintainer,
but not a lot.
I would have liked that there be no need for such a campaign, but events
showed that there's a real need for someone who sends reminders to the mailing
lists, pings packagers, points out important orphan packages. Waiting for
things to solve themselves doesn't work :) However, this demands a lot of
energy and I would be glad if someone could replace me in this task, because I
lack time to develop Mageia App Db. I volunteered only because there was a gap
to fulfill, but would be glad to see someone else become the official Orphan
Packages Protector.
His/her work would be the following:
- identifiy (with bugsquad's help) the orphan packages that have lots of
unresolved bugs or are severely outdated,
- do the same for packages that have a maintainer but are in a similar
situation,
- try to find packagers or apprentices to take care of them. Not necessarily
make them become maintainer, but at least solve users bugs.
- try to find maintainers for orphan packages.
I'm willing to help with advice or tools but would like to not be the person
in charge, if possible, so that I can really make the Mageia App Db available
before Mageia 2.
Does someone volunteer? It is a job that demands a lot of energy and
confidence, but I think it would be a really useful contribution. Bugsquad is
already doing part of this, but they have other duties, so someone dedicated
to this task could maybe help.
Before we start to do that, do you remember about these words:
>Currently the data about ownership of packages is tracked in
http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt and umaintined packages are
listed in http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/unmaintained.txt. This will
be better integrated and managed at a later point, and we will have a
grace period for unmaintained packages. After the grace period, packages
without a maintainer will be reviewed and any packages without a
maintainer will be nominated for deletion.
source https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines
I look into many really abandoned packages, without any interest among
the packagers, and for some of them it's even quite hard to find any
on-line resource.. For example cpuinfo, it's a /proc/* parser for CPU
related data. It's 2-3 years old (so what about the new hardware?!),
even the author of the software isn't responding to e-mail to just point
a working URL for his software.
Best regards
Samuel Verschelde
Regards
