Op woensdag 14 december 2011 23:19:40 schreef Michael Scherer: > Le samedi 10 décembre 2011 à 12:14 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : > > You're explaining why having orphan packages is bad and it's hard to > > disagree, but I fail to see why such a mailing list for people who are > > ready to devote some time to orphan packages would make things worse. > > It's not because it's not the ideal solution that it's bad, is it? > > Because such a mailling list would just incite people to add package and > never remove them, because "that's not really unmaintained, that's > collectively maintained". Which is just a non sense.
like mysql > That's how it was in Mandriva, so the proposition is just not helping. > > Each time a cleaning was attempted, someone said "but come on, we are > taking care of it collectively, so you cannot remove, it could still > help". And so almost nothing was removed. > > I see no reason to think it will be different. Same situation, same > spirit, same users, same outcome. > > Either people agree that we should have no orphans, and then the list is > useless, or they think we should keep orphans, and then this is causing > issues. Middle ground ( like "let's keep orphan for X months" ) are just > a variation of the first one, and so we would just be discussing the > duration. imho this mailing list is only good to notify other of maintainer who aren't active with their package, and to let people see: "oops, this one is unmaintained, but i need it, so i'll maintain it." so imo it should contain information: maintainership (if any), # bugs, perhaps even other packages that require or buildrequire it... i think this mailing list would be good, (not only for having no maintainer) > So let's try to make a proposal, if there is a list, after how many > months should a package be removed from the repository if not maintained > ( and by maintained, I do not say "not changes or anything", I really > mean "no one listed as maintainer" ) ? otoh, this is difficult, eg: mysql have no maintainer atm i want to provide mariadb as alternative, and be maintainer of that. (and drop mysql) but a convergence time is required, imho. so, i would say, packages could be dropped if no maintainer is set for 3 months unless someone is doing the work to get this dropped as a result of something else. agreed?
