'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 04/06/12 16:51 did gyre and gimble: > 2012/6/4 Olav Vitters <[email protected]>: >> > On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 09:13:53PM +0800, Kira wrote: >>> >> Well, I think the main point of arguing about this issue is that most >>> >> people is mostly used to other input method and they don't care about >>> >> iBus... >>> >> >>> >> Still 2 points to be answered especially for Mageia here: >>> >> >>> >> 1. In MCC, we can set up the input method in localedrake, and this >>> >> setting would be system-wide except GNOME about 3.6+. This should be >>> >> mentioned, because it would destroy the unified user experience. >> > >> > As said, I don't code. And unified experience I care for GNOME, that it >> > works consistently. I care about freedesktop.org standards. I don't care >> > for differences between distributions. E.g. MCC is great, but I prefer >> > if it didn't exist. MCC is only Mageia/Mandriva, another distro has >> > other things, etc. >> > I prefer something in gnome-control-center. > And here we have the main point, the difference between Gnome and > everybody else. > > Gnome is a mere desktop environment, nothing more and nothing less. Period.
You've maybe not been following the Gnome OS stuff then? I have and it's very interesting. As you know I've been a KDE developer for many years, but I much prefer the Gnome approach to lower level things. People involved in the Gnome project are very supportive to drive forward the core underlying plumbing layers rather than just build abstraction layers on top to rationalise the underlying insanity. I certainly have much more affinity to this approach to engineering (as you can likely tell when I share my opinions on stuff) than the KDE approach which does quite often paper over the cracks rather than solve the underlying problems. So I don't disagree with you with regards to how we, as a distro, should treat Gnome, but do keep in mind that "Gnome OS" as a whole is something we will all benefit from - this covers everything from how early boot should deal with user interaction and encryption passwords etc (i.e. plymouth) right up to GDM and X11 initialisation (including how to handle things when it fails) and thus the desktop environment "Gnome" will come with certain requirements for the underlying system on which it runs. In most (if not all) cases, these requirements will be for the general good anyway. Col -- Colin Guthrie colin(at)mageia.org http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited http://www.tribalogic.net/ Open Source: Mageia Contributor http://www.mageia.org/ PulseAudio Hacker http://www.pulseaudio.org/ Trac Hacker http://trac.edgewall.org/
