On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 05:51:11PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > 2012/6/4 Olav Vitters <[email protected]>: > > On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 09:13:53PM +0800, Kira wrote: > >> Well, I think the main point of arguing about this issue is that most > >> people is mostly used to other input method and they don't care about > >> iBus... > >> > >> Still 2 points to be answered especially for Mageia here: > >> > >> 1. In MCC, we can set up the input method in localedrake, and this > >> setting would be system-wide except GNOME about 3.6+. This should be > >> mentioned, because it would destroy the unified user experience. > > > > As said, I don't code. And unified experience I care for GNOME, that it > > works consistently. I care about freedesktop.org standards. I don't care > > for differences between distributions. E.g. MCC is great, but I prefer > > if it didn't exist. MCC is only Mageia/Mandriva, another distro has > > other things, etc. > > I prefer something in gnome-control-center. > > And here we have the main point, the difference between Gnome and > everybody else.
I'm not interested into turning this into an us vs them thread. > Gnome is a mere desktop environment, nothing more and nothing less. Period. > And it is not the only desktop environment nor the only way a user can > use the desktop. So the gnome-control-center must restrict itself to > settings which concern Gnome, nothing else. Same as the KDE > control-center should do. - Please change your wording. You have zero say in what goes on at gnome.org, nor about me. If you start by telling me what I must and must not do, it is better to not respond. - I clearly stated freedesktop.org standards - Maybe to clarify my point: When using GNOME, there should not be any need to resort to a distro specific configuration tool. E.g. xorg should be setup automatically, not require any distro assistance. It is long term and difficult. > Very simple and easy to understand reason: Not everbody uses Gnome or > KDE. If system settings will be done by Gnome and KDE control-centers, > we'd still need yet another "setting-center" for people who do not > use Gnome nor KDE. Simple logic that such a diversity makes no sense > at all. You clearly care about MCC, cool. But respect other people's opinion. I'd like to clarify more, but IMO, the mention freedesktop.org standard should be clear enough. > It would only make sense if Gnome was a Linux system of its own. Which > it is clearly not. You're assuming things I did not state. Such as that there is nothing outside of GNOME, etc. To make clear: I think it is stupid that various distributions have their own specific configuration tools. That should be shared across distributions. Secondly, I think you should be able to do everything from within System Settings. Two different points, not one. -- Regards, Olav
