Re: [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO

[david]

Le 05/11/2010 03:12, andre999 a écrit :


Le 2010-11-02 08:02, Tux99 a écrit :
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010, Frank Griffin wrote:

Tux99 wrote:
On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Frank Griffin wrote:
Weak point:

Unless you are prepared to do full intensive QA on the updated 
distro,
the quality of these updated ISOs can be significantly lower than 
the
quality of the original release ISO.  Since it will look, for all
intents and purposes, like the release ISO, that level of quality 
will
be what people expect of it.

Nonsense. The normal updates are not any more unstable than the 
original
release, rather the contrary.
I suggest you review MDV's release procedures.  Full releases and
security updates go through formal QA.  Backports are often not even
tested by the person building the rpm.

Backports? Who is talking about backports?
We are talking about normal security and bug-fix updates here.
If one selects "all updates" in Rpmdrake, it includes backports, if 
such repositorys are enabled.

And they get addressed through updates which themselves go through QA.

Exactly, that's why it make sense to release an updated iso with them
included.

Agreed, we are not talking about backports at all. This issue is 
about giving out an ISO disk with all official updates (to that date) 
to people who cannot have their slow telephone hookup tied up for the 
day to download our Mageia product or to user who have no hookup to 
the internet at all.

Surely, the official updates have been thoroughly tested just as the 
original release? It not, then a warning should be put out to 
users/members that the official updates do not have the same level of 
QA as the original release.

Marc

Even bugfixes often have errors.  Many times I've seen bugfixes of 
bugfixes, and sometimes bugfixes of bugfixes of bugfixes.  (If you 
read the description.)
If we go for incremental rpms (very much smaller), the only advantage 
I see is for those without Internet connexion.
In that case, they wouldn't likely be vulnerable to security problems. 
 So that leaves (other) bugfixes.
This is something that I think, for the time being at least, can be 
best adressed on an individual or local community basis.

- André


There is a solution called draklive. Maybe could it be usefull to take 
advantage of this tool to rebuild automatically by a script on the 
servers the isos from updated repositories. I do it locally for my work 
to install mdv rapidly.
David
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