Margot a écrit :
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:24:11 -0400
Marc Paré<[email protected]> wrote:
Le 2010-11-04 22:12, andre999 a écrit :
Even bugfixes often have errors. Many times I've seen bugfixes
of bugfixes, and sometimes bugfixes of bugfixes of bugfixes.
(If you read the description.)
If we go for incremental rpms (very much smaller), the only
advantage I see is for those without Internet connexion.
In that case, they wouldn't likely be vulnerable to security
problems. So that leaves (other) bugfixes.
This is something that I think, for the time being at least,
can be best adressed on an individual or local community basis.
- André
Therefore, for a Mageia Community to supply an ISO to a member
who has dial-up services but is seeking help from the community
for an ISO download. Options would be:
* provide user with ISO from Mageia without any updates
* provide a user with ISO from Mageia with incremental updates
* provide a user with ISO from Mageia with all updates
Obviously, the two last options are not available from Mageia as
this is what this thread was all about. Unless there were built
ISO's at the Mageia download site. The main concerns really are
the amount of disk space on Mageia servers and mirrors. But these
last two ISO's could be built somehow if the server space could
be accommodated and also if there was dev interest in doing these
ISOs.
Marc
You missed my suggestion - provide 2 discs, one with the original
(thoroughly tested) release ISO, and a second disc with the latest
set of updates.
Right. The best solution.
To reiterate, the suggestion was that the second disc would contain
packages of the update repositories, to be made by communities - or
individuals - as needed, for users with no or limited internet access.
The advantage being that since updates are considerably smaller than
official packages, it would take a lot less time/effort than making a
much larger ISO updating an official ISO.
Note that the update repositories remove outdated updates.
Further thoughts :
It would also be useful to have a utility to assist making such an
update disc, downloading the current contents of update repositories, etc.
Ideally the utility would (at least have the default option to) only
include updates for packages on the official ISO, making it much smaller.
Local communities could even keep a local copy of update repositories,
to facilitate quickly making update discs.
For the user, installation would be a 2 or 3 step process :
1) Install the official ISO
2) Install the update ISO, a much quicker process than (1).
3) If the user has limited Internet access, update on line, to ensure
that one has the latest updates, a much quicker process than (2).
If the update ISO is recent enough, there will be no updates in this step.
Currently, installation should include steps (1) and (3).
So essentially, there is no (significant) disadvantage for the user to
have a separate update ISO.
Also note that this approach does not change the storage space needed in
mirrors, as these update discs, made from the contents of update
repositories, would not themselves be in repository. For good reason :
the contents of the update repositories change on a daily basis.
- André
