On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 12:00:51 -0500 Mark Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ME> VZ has an overly complicated concept of GPG usage in email clients. That's because I don't have _any_ concept. I'd be really glad if someone could explain to me what does it involve. ME> Also -- S/MIME support would be nice, but that topic is orthogonal to ME> GPG, and belongs in its own thread. Right. ME> ME>> GPG support is a perfect application for Python scripting in ME> ME>> Mahogany. ME> VZ> I don't think so, as it's rather difficult to add full support ME> VZ> for this. ME> ME> Ethically, the M project should remove Python from its web site ME> features list. This feature is the one reason I got interested. Now ME> after "reading the fine print" I learn that Python is no longer ME> supported and unlikely in the future. It is no longer supported because I'm personally more interested in other things right now. If I had infinite amount of free time I'd gladly work on this as using Python (or any other language for that matter) to script Mahogany can be quite exciting. As for "unlikely in the future" -- I hope it will. But it certainly would help if there were more people working on Mahogany. When we put Python support initially in M (5 years ago) we thought that it would attract the attention of the Python community but nobody has ever got interested and, what do you want, code which is unused for several years is prone to bit rot. ME> VZ has all but driven me away from the M project. I have a strong impression that you have a personal gripe against me but I have no idea why. Maybe you'd feel better if you explained it. Anyhow, sorry to hear this but I don't see what wrong have I done -- my usual strategy is to tell people the truth and not what I'd like to tell them. And this is all I did. ME> Without Python scripting, I may as well use any of several dozen email ME> clients, many of which already support GPG/PGP. Certainly, please go ahead. But why take it so badly? ME> The ultimate answer to Python scripting may be to port the M project to ME> wxPython. Python scripting is a unique feature and a major selling ME> point. I am tired of half-baked email client "macro" languages. Take ME> Python scripting off the website, and you will not draw any more folks ME> like me to M. But the intention *is* to draw people interested in developing Python subsystem to M. ME> M should simply filter-scan messages for "BEGIN PGP MESSAGE" and ME> trigger a command-line to GPG. Are you speaking of the old PGP format? I think it's much more important to support the PGP MIME (sub) type. ME> For outgoing messages, all you need is a checkbox for GPG encryption ME> and another for GPG signing. These would just add "--encrypt" and ME> "--sign" to the command line. How does it combine with MIME? What you describe is for the text messages only. ME> Consider a wider perspective. M should offer a command-line pipe ME> interface to support all kinds of external console tools (not just ME> GPG). These tools could be considered as special types of email ME> filters. Since Python support is dying off, at least M should offer a ME> console-tool filtering capability. Then users could run any tool they ME> please -- HTMLTidy, GPG, whatever. I've thought, of course, about this, but I have the impression that this is not enough for PGP (it might/is a good thing by itself, but this is a separate issue). Maybe I'm wrong but so far I think we're speaking of different things. Regards, VZ ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Mahogany-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mahogany-users
