Sorry this took a bit, apparently SF's mail-list has been slow
to cough up the digests...

In reference to VZ on 04Feb2004:

EV> 1 - The Addresses pane does not seem to be implemented
EV> accurately yet.

VZ> Sorry, what do you mean?

Please reference the thread, but in general for (it seems)
everyone except Vadim, adding one's own e-mail addresses to the
slightly obscure area that keeps you from replying to yourself
is a hit-or-miss proposition.  That being said, at least with
the latest wipe and re-install of v0.66 it seems to be working
correctly now.

EV> 2 - Adding a custom filter rule seems a bit cumbersome.  In
EV> reality, do you ever care if you have read your own Sent
EV> e-mails?

VZ> I do... Also, it doesn't make much sense to have to do something special
VZ> (like mark as read) for a sent mail folder, especially if you have
VZ> several of them.

EV>  This is the only MUA I have run across that has this
EV> behaviour by default (some you can change to behave this way),
EV> so it seems logical that it should be configurable to not treat
EV> any messages in the "Sent" folder as unread or new rather than
EV> having to build a custom "one-off" solution each place I install
EV> M.

VZ> I think what you really want is to not show SentMail folder as having VZ> new mail 
in the tree, don't you? Because otherwise I simply don't
VZ> understand what is the problem with having the messages as unread in it.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that issue.  I have had
issues with M dealing with showing read/unread in the tree.
 Despite folder settings, global settings, etc. it continues to
show.  So, I'll keep my custom filter for the moment.

EV> 3 - Well, generally the "Text Only" viewer displays HTML-only
EV> messages  (a la Outlook created) as:
EV> [Attachment: TEXT/HTML, 32 lines]

VZ> All pure-HTML messages like this go directly to Junk folder here...
VZ> Outlook usually (I do believe that it does it by default) sends
VZ> multipart/alternative messages, i.e. they contain both HTML and text
VZ> parts.
VZ> Sending pure HTML messages is just plain evil and I refuse to do
VZ> anything to support this. Also, you already have the HTML viewer so you VZ> may 
view them if you really have to. But it would be much better to let VZ> the people 
sending you crap like this know that they can keep their
VZ> precious HTML while still sending something readable in all mailers.

Gosh, I'm sorry to hear that you feel that way.  Though I
personally don't care for HTML, RichText, or
other-non-plain-text in e-mail, I'm not quite that vehement.
 And part of the issue is that although using the Outlook Client
to send through MS Exchange to the outside world (e.g.: Public
Internet) does create the multi-part message, sending internally
(which is what I'm dealing with) MS _does_not_ allow the
generation of multipart messages to MAPI recipients.  Even if
I'm using the IMAP interface.

In an organization of over 10,000 individuals, run by the State,
it is a tad impractical for me to attempt to mandate that
_everyone_ configure for "Plain Text Only."  I really hope that
you will have mercy and pity on those of us in corporate
environments where we neither control nor can recommend making a
global change of this magnitude.

In the meantime, it (very unfortunately) appears I will have to
again begin researching alternative MUA's so that I can
effectively communicate with my coworkers.

Regretfully,

--
Ed Vazquez


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