Sorry for the copy direct to you Alan. I'm fixing my reply options for this
folder now <sigh>.

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:01:29 -0500 Alan Isaac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, "Gerald V. Livingston II" wrote: 
> > Eww. Not a vi* fan. I'll dig around and see if I can get 
> > something else working. 
> 
> If you do not like modal editing, you can use Cream 
> (essentially Vim with the modes hidden).
> 
> But as a more general observation, I always suspect anyone 
> who dislikes modal editing refused to spend any time with 
> it. (Forgive any presumption here.)  The Vim tutorial takes 
> only 20 minutes to get you up and running.  Your technical 
> skill level is clearly higher than mine, so if I can love it ...
> 
> To get OT, Vim works great with Mahogany.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alan Isaac 

My first computer text file editing was done with 'edlin' in DOS. That was
fun, having to replace whole lines to fix a misspelling. From there I went
to WordStar on CP/M. That's what I'm most comfortable with. When I started
using slackware Linux in the mid 90's I learned vi because at the time it
was easier than compiling and installing several other editors to find one
I MIGHT like. I used it for over a year. I can be proficient in it if it's
the only editor available on a machine I have to maintain.

But, having to switch back and forth between stock Windows and various
Linux machines I prefer to do all of my text editing in either
point-and-click or WordStar keystroke editors WITHOUT having to install and
customize before use. For Windows machines I carry around an installable
copy of something called "Crimson Editor" which lets me save in DOS or
Linux CR/LF format. For Linux, most every distro has pico, nano, ae, or joe
available out of the box. 

Now, the actual problem is finding ANY editor that can be customized to
handle email word-wrapping correctly. To look for the "> " pair as the
first two characters of a line and if that line exceeds the wrap-length add
a NEW "> " pair at the beginning of the next line, move the extra
characters down past that addition, Look for "> " on the next line and if
it is there then delete it and move the remainder of the line up to the end
of the current line then start over counting from the beginning of the
current line.

And THAT, of course, is just the logic for dealing with a single nested
level of quoting. It actually needs to look for ">>> " and "XXX> "    and
"> > > " and ...

I'm digging into the joe documentation now to see how much I can customize
the word-wrap functions. It has special modes for many program file
extensions already so I may be able to talk it into doing proper email
wrapping if I can tell it to ignore ">" unless it is at the beginning of a
line.

Most MUA's have an "internal" editor that works, maybe one of the others
has one that I can rip out of the package. The internal editing in M 0.66
worked fine. 0.67 no longer wraps properly.

Thanks, 

Gerald


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