At 1:02 AM +0100 2003/07/29, Mike Holderness wrote:

 A default-setting Hotmail account <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 that I set up for testing received the welcome message and
 four subsequent messages OK, then bounced as recorded below.
 Hotmail claims a loop, but I see no evidence of one...
 though it does seem to be bouncing around a lot inside
 the ISP's machines.

Note that MTAs have to look at the number of "Received:" headers that are on messages, and if the count is higher than a certain threshold, they will assume that there is a mail loop and bounce the message. Many MTAs place this threshold at around seventeen hops.


It would seem to me that your ISP is screwing you around by the way they are passing around e-mail internally to their network. Get them to clean up their internal routing of e-mail, and this problem should go away.

--
Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
    -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.

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