-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 24, 2007, at 2:56 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> I simply think we should be prepared for applications where relying on > the sender to supply a UUID is not acceptable; we need to be able to > provide one ourselves. Creating UUIDs is a solved problem, after all. > So we just specify a header to put it in, and subscribers will be able > to use it, per definition of a canonical URL. > > Then we say that an archive SHOULD provide access to the resource via > Message-ID if available, and define how to construct that URL from the > List-Archive and Message-ID headers. I think there's two approaches we could argue for. One is for the mailing list manager to craft a UUID out of whole cloth and stick that in a header. Then any downstream archiver would be obliged to use that header value as the canonical address of the message, with an alternative path to the message via the Message-ID (possibly returning a list of matching messages when there are collisions). The second approach, and the one that I favor, is to use the Message- ID (and the Date) header on the original message as the UUID, properly handling corner cases like duplicate headers or missing header. This UUID servers as the basis for the address to the message resource just like above. I like the second approach better because in the case where you start with an off-list copy of the message, you have a decent enough chance of getting to the archived message, or at least to a resource containing a link to the message. The first alternative would require access to the list copy. Imagine if every archiver supported my proposal, knowing just the Message-ID and Date header, you could get to that message from almost anywhere, just by using the UUID as a relative URL rooted at say http://www.mail-archive.com, http://groups.google.com, http:// mail.python.org/pipermail, or whatever. That would be pretty neat. - -Barry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBRqZKpnEjvBPtnXfVAQJWcwP6A6SqHTeft+c/5IeSpRsI+gvtPJW94fcG pjB66oYiKco7U+rZtxll3TPD9Ta7gccohq72sh8hV7CHRW7Cd531Hq91z7QktHUW zqzxkMimoca7WlUxr0/ElyPNhRkjMlR8LvhNCjs4a9O6/PpzBTNjsXwaTKfLrqO3 N5iq3BWoMK8= =fSNC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp