Personally from my stand point, the only options that I can think of for a "simple" interface would be:

MAIN SITE ADMIN:
#1.     Create a new mailing list
#2.     Add Users to list
#3.     Manage digest/non digest options
#4.     Emergency moderation
#5.     Archives (Setting for public/private)

LIST ADMIN:
#1.     Manage subscriber list
#2.     Manage digest/non digest options
#3.     Emergency moderation
#4.     Archives (Public/private settings)


I think that's it... And then provide links to the advanced interface, Maybe have a "glossary" where you can go into and pull up all the settings and then click on it and link directly to it?

In fact... Depending on how the documentation is done, it might be possible to use that to grab the settings...


On Jun 19, 2008, at 1:21 PM, Terri Oda wrote:

A few days ago, a discussion of Mailman's web UI started on mailman- users: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/msg49681.html

Since this is more of a development effort than a users issue, we're moving continued discussion here.

I'll kick off the thread by answering a question:

But how easy is it to actually improve the web UI?

Not very. Not only is it tightly integrated, but any text change will have to go through all the many translators for various languages. And then there's accessibility concerns, issues regarding any extra install requirements we might want to add (eg for templating systems), and the basic problem of building an interface that appeals to a rather large array of people... Changing the web UI is a big pain.

That said, I think this is a worthwhile endeavour, and we had previous discussed an improved web UI being a good goal for a 2.2 release (we'll also need new UI for mm3, of course). Just don't expect it to happen tomorrow or be a cakewalk. This is not a project to take on lightly.


I've started up a wiki page here for us to capture ideas for an improved web UI:

http://wiki.list.org/x/RoBE


and being the self-interested person that I am, I'm going to try to generate some thoughts on my own idea here first ;)

I think we could benefit a fair bit from having a "simple" and an "expert" interface for the list administrators. I had a number of replies both on and off list saying "yes! please!" so I take it I'm not the only one who thinks this is a good idea. My question to everyone is... what options would you deem essential in the "simple" interface?

Terri

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