On 11/14/25 15:36, Cathryn McGuire wrote:
Hi Mark,

"It appears in your case that Gateway to news is Yes and Newsgroup
moderation is Moderated"

I don't see any Gateway to mail or Gateway to news, but Newsgroup moderation 
was set to Moderated (as you said). I changed it to Not Moderated.

That's good. As I've said, I don't know what the affinity UI looks like. If you send me (off list) a screen shot of the page where you see Newsgroup moderation, I can advise you further, but basically, anything to do with Newsgroups should be set to Off or No.

In the following case, they are cc'ing to the mailist, and To: is to a member. 
Sometimes they are not members. Sometimes they To: to the mailist and cc: to 
the member or non-member.

Subject:Re: [Neighbours] Furnace problems
To:Bill McCreery <[email protected]>
Cc:[email protected]
Content-Type:multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f9e5900643322d20"
X-MailFrom:[email protected]
X-Mailman-Rule-Hits:header-match-neighbours.mailist.dunbar-vancouver.org-0
X-Mailman-Rule-Misses:dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; 
banned-address; member-moderation


My understanding is you want to hold for moderation any message with a Cc: unless it it To: the list with a Cc: to a member, and I said that with what's available to you in the list's settings, you can't distinguish between Cc: to a member and Cc: to a nonmember, so you have to hold any message with a Cc:


"If the reason was actually what is posted above with 'neighbors'
rather than 'cc:', that's a problem with EMWD's Mailman core."

Does that mean that any cc: to neighbours or to a member or non-member should 
be blocked (held)?
Or, does that mean if the cc: is to neighbours, it should be allowed through?

That quote was in response to your post at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/IPJZ7GN3Q4OXGH3L7BVPYCRXVSUTOEAR/ wherein you said

The message is being held because:

Header "neighbours

<[email protected]>" matched a
header rule

I thought that was a typo and the real reason was

Header "Cc: <[email protected]>" matched a header rule.

If that was the case, it was expected and was due to your header filter on Cc: headers. My confusion was I couldn't see how the reason could have been

Header "neighbours <[email protected]>" matched a header rule.

And if it was, that was an EMWD issue.

I think the header rule you have will hold any post with a Cc: to anywhere. If you want to not hold posts with a Cc: <[email protected]> regardless of To:, you can do that by adjusting your header rules, but I don't think you want that.

--
Mark Sapiro <[email protected]>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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