On Sun, Mar 15, 2026 at 10:31 AM Thomas Krichel <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I am very sorry to you folks for not getting back on the problems I > am having to install on Debian testing. There are two reasons. One > is that I have been much offline for personal reasons. The other is > that I have another machine called tagol where I have been running > Mailman3 for about three years, using the Debian packet on Debian > testing. As testing move to 3.13 this installation could not run. I > replaced mailman-core with a 3.12 venv install, but left the > mailman3-web package of Debian. This half-arsed job held up for a > long time but two weeks ago collapsed. No email went through. I have been > trying to switch to a full venv version, still staying with 3.12. > > Tagol hosts a single list > > mailman@tagol:~$ mailman lists > 1 matching mailing lists found: > [email protected] > > I have some bad queue files. Let's look at the oldest > > mailman@tagol:~$ ls -lt /var/lib/mailman3/queue/bad/ | tail -1 > -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 8579 Mar 11 14:32 > 1773239548.2417333+451b61b8707218b4dc3d0864eb4ee0172bd21d71.psv > > Write a script "test_bad" to submit this back. > > mailman@tagol:~$ cat test_bad > #!/bin/bash > > > base=/var/lib/mailman3/queue/bad/1773239548.2417333+451b61b8707218b4dc3d0864eb4ee0172bd21d71 > psv=$base.psv > pck=$base.pck > > cp $psv $pck > mailman unshunt > mailman@tagol:~$ > > When I run this script, I get in my log > > Mar 15 05:40:46 2026 (2658932) <[email protected] > > > runner "in" shunting message for missing list: <object object at > 0x7fb1ad1ad730> > > I suspect mailman does not see the database. But > > mailman@tagol:~$ mailman info | grep -v credent > GNU Mailman 3.3.10 (Tom Sawyer) > Python 3.12.9 (main, Feb 5 2025, 01:31:18) [GCC 14.2.0] > config file: /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg > db url: sqlite:////var/lib/mailman3/data/mailman.db > devmode: DISABLED > REST root url: http://localhost:8001/3.1/ > > The file exists > > mailman@tagol:~$ ls -l /var/lib/mailman3/data/mailman.db > -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 4825088 Mar 15 05:20 > /var/lib/mailman3/data/mailman.db > > I have no idea where to look next. > > Thanks and cheers! > MM3 with Sqlite is not recommended for production. The virtualenv HOWTO even doesn't mention it. So ideally, you should be using PostgreSQL or MariaDB. In a production setup, the MM3 core and Django config files should ideally reside in /etc/mailman3/ The output of the command 'mailman info' should show "config file: /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg". with db_url pointing to an officially supported RDBM. That will tell you that MM3 is reading the expected config. Mixing-and-match of virtualenv and OS package install will lead to lots of pain chasing ghosts - as you can already see. Having said that, let's say your choice is sqlite as the DB, does your list exist in the DB? Run this command from the DB and show output: select id, list_id from mailinglist; -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html] _______________________________________________ Mailman-users mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ Archived at: https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/VPHMSCDOXKGN2BO53EJ4SGOFEGYEUTFM/ This message sent to [email protected]
