At 1:09 AM -0500 2004-09-22, Jon Roland wrote:it seems like it would be useful to have an alternative of running a
python GUI that does the same thing without having to run the web server
when the use for it is so limited. Just a suggested item for the to-do list.
I don't understand how you could possibly accomplish this. Are you proposing that the Python developers create an entire new Graphical User Interface, to compete with X11R6/Gnome/KDE and the like, and then somehow serve this remotely via the Internet?!?
Of course not. Just a simple GUI front end for installing and setting up a Mailman site, that would incorporate expert knowledge about various environments so that the user doesn't have to struggle with manually editing configuration files, finding needed program files, launching web servers and mailman daemons, establishing interfaces with the MTA, etc. Same kind of thing we do with all kinds of popular apps. But if you're running Suse 9.1 on a 400 MHz Pentium III with only 128MG of RAM, you don't want to run unnecessary background processes, like a web server, when all it is needed for is to set up a list locally. Remotely, sure. Using a web browser for that for a short time makes sense. But a lot of people have to do things on old, underpowered laptops.
But I'm more interested in a GUI for site setup. If it can start and stop the web server, running it long enough to create a list and add or delete recipients to or from it is acceptable, provided one doesn't forget to stop it when that is complete.
Wherever did you get the bizarre idea I was proposing some entire new desktop environment? Simple setup GUI, like the ones we use for setting up email clients and accounts for them. User just has to choose from among suggested options, and not have to type in much if anything. That doesn't seem like too much to ask for.
If Linux is going to displace MS Windows, major apps are going to have to enable users to use their tools without ever having to see the CLI. Point and click.
-- Jon
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