You are aware that the "list owner" and "list moderator" are now two seperate 
identities and that after your upgrade you need to access the admin page for 
each list and fill in the email address for "moderator" which will be blank. ?

this happened to me too when i upgraded to 2.1.5

Fred


On Tuesday 12 October 2004 07:28, Richard Barrett wrote:
> On 11 Oct 2004, at 18:54, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I have a mailman installation I am responisible for (2.1.5).  The list
> > owners do not get any administrative emails (like pending requests).
> > However, the same email addresses subscribed to lists get the list
> > traffic fine and the people get all their normal emails ok.  So the
> > problem seems to lie with Mailman.
>
> Presumption, not proven.
>
> > Here is an example from the smtp-failure log file, which I believe is
> > all this admin stuff
> >
> > Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with
> > code 451: Temporary local problem - please try later
> > Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) All recipients refused:
> > {'[EMAIL PROTECTED]': (451, 'Temporary local problem - please try
> > later')}, msgid: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with
> > code 451: Temporary local problem - please try later
> > Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) All recipients refused:
> > {'[EMAIL PROTECTED]': (451, 'Temporary local problem - please try
> > later')}, msgid: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with
> > code 451: Temporary local problem - please try later
> > Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) All recipients refused:
> > {'[EMAIL PROTECTED]': (451, 'Temporary local problem - please try
> > later')}, msgid: <mailman.21.1097506077.1873.roselawn@ domain.com>
> > Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with
> > code 451: Temporary local problem - please try later
>
> The smtp failures being reported in Mailman's logs appear to be just
> the responses it is getting from the SMTP server it has been told to
> talk to, i.e. the MTA is reporting a not very explicit temporary
> failure to Mailman. Does the SMTP server's logs contain any more info
> as to why it is refusing these messages?
>
> > Again, this seems to only affect notices for the admin like pending
> > requests etc.   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (and it happens with everyone who is a
> > list owner it appears) gets mail from Mailman as a list user and
> > normal non Mailman mail just fine.
> >
> > I think this happened when we upgradede from 2.0.8 or something in
> > that era to 2.1.5
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Chad
>
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