On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 10:53:08AM -0600, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 11:47 AM +0100 11/17/06, Georg Sauthoff wrote: > > PS: Is it ok, if I submit a subscribtion request for this list to > > www.gmane.org (a nntp gateway and web-archive of mailinglists)? > Uh, no -- please don't. Please see the archives for the background > on this issue.
If the admins don't like the gmane.org project/service I won't send a request to them. For the background you probably mean threads around: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-February/049376.html (the take, take, take and leaching arguments are IMO a bit far fetched. And e.g. as a user of different ml I read via gmane I am not feeling as a part of the private gmane community! It is just an useful tool (to participate in some ml community, if you will). http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-September/053344.html > > PPS: Perhaps you could remove the direct link to this list from > > http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/lists.html (in the left row) - > > because the list requires subscription. s/row/column/ > The list does require subscription, but the archives are public. > IMO, people should be able to figure out for themselves that they > will need to subscribe before posting. I am only talking about the left link. It is about 'good practice': - you have an open list: just throw the ml adress, -request adress/link and archive/search link at the page - you have an closed list, which is absolutely allright: don't just write the ml adress at the page (without a clear statement that it is a closed list) At the page http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/docs.html the authors invite users to just mail to mailman-users@ ('Email Us' - left side, like every left side ) and only 'suggest' to subscribe ('We suggest you subscribe to the list first' - right side, 2nd paragraph). And sure you link to the searchable mail archive from the faq and http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users, but not from http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/ (which is the first place if I look for the searchable archives - of course then the faq or directly via google). > But Barry is the one who has the final word on that subject. Best regards Georg Sauthoff
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