Hi all,

I have to disagree.  Anything that can be done with the Mailman "mass
 subscribe" feature can be done just as effectively with a contact
list on Gmail, in theory.[1]  It's other aspects of Gmail policy that
(so far at least) make that a small enough problem that I've never considered filtering on "^(From|Sender):[EMAIL PROTECTED]".

Quite a long thread but important issues on their own. Let me just make
one point. I think that we're really talking about two contexts:

1/ Mailman as a discussion list - like the one we're having here. I don't imagine spammers would be setting up their lists as discussion list, would they? I don't actually imagine big time spammers using mailman. They're all about botnets.

2/ Mailman as a newsletter/announcement list.
I can't sponsor the developers (sad but true) but I'd love to see Mailman giving me an option to create either discussion or announcement list with pre-set features for each of them. One of these pre-sets could be in fact the presence or absence of mass-subscribe feature defined per list during list creation.

If I don't really know the people I am giving a list to administer, I would be tempted, especially with an announcement list, to turn off mass subscribe feature.

Mailman is getting better and better no doubt about it. However, if I understand the current trends, discussion lists are dropped in favour of online forums and newsletter/marketing tools are more and more sought after. This is a market to gain for Mailman but it currently lacks a few features to do that. Well, my post is slowly getting off topic so I will just wrap it up by thanking the developers for a very good software I am able to use!

Regards,

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Zbigniew Szalbot
www.LCWords.com
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