Dear all happy campers,

I need to upgrade from Mailman 2.1 - my hardware needs upgrading (badly) and 
the address mangling is having my subscribers rip their hair out. I need to get 
this done before they start on my already thinning hair!

I’m ready and eager to move on to MM3 on a Linux box. First I tried to install 
it myself. After all, I had installed MM2 and it worked fine until AOL and 
Yahoo messed it up,  My computer (an iMac) presents with a black screen on 
startup and is apt to die at any moment. I ran into trouble some 4/5 through 
the installation - I simply got lost in jingo. I then hired a pro, but he had 
real-life issues that kept him distracted and he also had trouble with the 
installation. I switched to a second pro, a friend, who has tried valiantly for 
a few months (on and off) but has basically given up now. This is his latest 
comment on his efforts after I (gently) nagged him:

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Hi Allan,

I have looked into it a few times now and I keep running into the same blocks. 
I don't see much moving either. I was hoping someone (Mailman developing 
community) would come up with a better working solution. 

My concern is that the Mailman3 is not ready. There are too many dead ends and 
undocumented stuff. For Mailman2 I have a working integration with iRedMail, 
that does not seem to work with 3.

So far I don't have anyone who knows how to make Mailman3 work integrated with 
iRedMail (or similar). Things I have tried and documented are not a conclusive 
working installation.
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So, is MM3 ready for the big screen? If so, is there some way/how/where/when 
that my friend can get help helping me with the installation other than the 
published installation docs, which did not work for us? 

I have looked for both free and commercial alternatives to MM, but, frankly, I 
don’t think that there is anything that comes close to what we have. One of my 
lists started out on LISTSERV many decades ago. I moved it to Appls’s list 
server and then I moved it to MM after Apple starting with OS/X. Apparently 
LISTSERV is still around and is being updated, but I’m not keen on going back 
there, and it’s very expensive too boot.

Any help with this is greatly appreciated!

Yours,

Allan Hansen



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