At Mon, 25 Nov 2019 13:47:16 -0500 Jim Popovitch <jim...@domainmail.org> wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 11:06 -0500, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users > wrote: > > On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 16:59 +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: > > > Am Mo., 25. Nov. 2019 um 16:47 Uhr schrieb Jim Popovitch via > > > Mailman-Users <mailman-users@python.org>: > > > > On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 10:17 -0500, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > > > > > Is there a timeline for that? Mailman 2.x requires python 2.x, which > > > > > is > > > > > EOL in about 40 days. > > > > > > > > I keep saying this a lot... the EOL you are referring to is Python's > > > > declared date that the Python team will no longer maintain Python2. > > > > HOWEVER, Redhat, Debian, etc., *will* still be maintaining Python2 > > > > throughout the lifecycles of their releases that contain Python2. So, > > > > for Debian 10 (Buster) that is well past 2022 (which is the LTS > > > > end-data > > > > for Debian 9). > > > > > > Python2 is being removed from Debian's next release, Bullseye, though. > > > This already has caused turmoil for the Calibre package and I suppose > > > that they will have to remove mailman 2 also so that it is not going to > > > be in the bullseye release. > > > > Correct, so LTS End-date for Buster (which will be sometime in 2024?) > > will be the last of Python2 for Debian. > > > > If you are migrating to Bullseye, then it makes sense to plan for an > > application (e.g. Mailman) migration too. BUT if you are not using > > bleeding edge OSes, you don't need to heed the Python fear mongering. > > Since I'm working on PPAs some today, an additional bullet-point to the > above is that Ubuntu Bionic (which includes Python 2.7) has an EOL of > April 2028. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases > > Sure, it would be great if everyone migrated to MM3 (and MM3 fit inside > the requirements of everyone using it..) ASAP, but just like with the > Linux Kernel there is no magic solution to have everyone on Kernel 5.x > this week... so guess what, kernel 3x still gets security patches from > distributors. And RedHat is still supporting Kernel 2x for RHEL 6... > > - -Jim P. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEE3RmV4WutJ2KyCS2zPcxbabkKGJ8FAl3cIbQACgkQPcxbabkK > GJ8C6hAApwN2XGzId6EgR8tWponW5g++4fQvYYS7XmDLIQv3aTOEasVCz1aElp1+ > oEw9BYYcjIvsNAROrs/H1meg0zfMcmCzNBXJ1/zFTUdLTF/bZ7fOutOexhXrmd3w > V/gOrL8OsiR+BOCKxiFCKH6D9sudbAIgw7cWFUxhcK0b7jEnGSrU/NIhf75xRtOE > tzp01jS3a9ormxMZyniDV4C8QDbWIySBjrbKrM8S3tVTu8mbz7C+gIQKZzWXiJ7s > jolEjRKExZ7OF1AM9nRCexIkvNzcdO+E83OheCnDjPyt70NxIdQxXmqYpxTr6YNZ > MX6jQ3VuYTnMiNWHUvg8xECl6qDj7RU9zNdd9Citsj8QoWQs2Lvi500YjY1IiVSO > ncmFwRPKBXuR4tv5z2bIcXvru7Fe8tSlZlOyLhL1chqRKQqhvazkJmNgnEgKs8ga > 9Ha433BHYikXpGOX8+mR6//gREygbQFZInHgWOv5QWeAnY01H80HBwK7Y1vmKAUy > kqMDoVAH7sO30xK0WdRsKaUktkr8bWES3MQJmb2fwKcH8l8hkh69RLKzxvj8zZi0 > 8NyN+812ujUuuYtgNfZQf+MLggElrqe19b7pViBuRwwuVcxG9GteUWk/lQxC+nl1 > yE4LiZN/q2UE2M2FASZUihLPXZb7OWdzi7Imjf2bRruF0n45bcw= > =Lsiw > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/heller%40deepsoft.com > > > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services hel...@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
