On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 2:37 PM Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
<mailman-users@python.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> A couple of days ago, over on the MAILOP mailinglist, there was a long
> thread titled 'Mailman confirmation email denial of service'.  This
> detailed some of the problems we've all seen with Mailman subscription
> spam.  The Mailman team has addressed a lot of these problems with
> ReCAPTCHA support and additional configuration options.  Arguably the
> best solution has been the ReCAPTCHA integration.  BUT, a lot of people
> don't like the Google tie-ins that come with ReCAPTCHA.


The person describing the problem in that thread had not set
SUBSCRIBE_FORM_SECRET, and someone with apparently the same problem
described it as "actually filling it correctly (password,
confirmation...) and, as shown below, without even fetching the page
containing the form first". I may well have misunderstood it, and
apologise in advance if I have, but it seems that the problem in
question could have been avoided using an existing feature of Mailman
2.

(It would be ideal if Mailman 2 could be developed until the same set
of people who installed it can install Mailman 3, but I don't know how
realistic that is. I installed MM2 on a shared server, with no real
expertise and at no extra cost, but have been told I would need to pay
for a dedicated server to install MM3. I will probably move to MM3
mainly for its email-from-web feature, but pay to have the list hosted
for me on a subdomain.)

Best wishes

Jonathan
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