Okay, upon reflection I think I figured out what happened here.  I
    replied to an existing thread but deleted the entirety of the
    message thread and changed the subject entirely.  I thought that
    started a new message thread but perhaps the list software registers
    that as a reply to an existing thread.  I organize my email client
    by date and not by thread so I would not see this.  Apologizes to
    all if this is the case.
    
    I'm told by my list subscriber the following:
    
    a. He thinks that the Digest message formatting is messed-up as it
    originally comes from the list, but he is not sure (reply messages
    might be messing up the formatting).
    
    b. He is using iPhone and Outlook for Apple email clients.
    
    c. He is also experiencing quote marks (") and apostrophes (') being
    turned into question marks (?) throughout the text of digest
    messages.
    
    Is this mess a function of his Apple email clients, or a problem
    that rests with the Mailman list management software?
    
    Thanks,
    Michael
    
    
      
        Michael Reeder, LCPC 
            
      Hygeia Counseling Services : Baltimore / Mt.
              Washington Village location
       410-205-2419
              / michael(at)hygeiacounseling.com
       http://www.hygeiacounseling.com
              - main website. 
            
      
      On 11/17/2020 9:21 PM, Michael Reeder LCPC -- Hygeia Regular
      wrote:
    
    Mark
      -- I very much appreciate your answer below.  I'll work on the
      (nearly impossible) task of training users to respond to digests
      properly and also explain to people that the Mailman list mgmt
      software can't control formatting screw-ups by email client
      programs. 
      
      I agree with not hijacking threads...  What hijack?  Looks to me
      like I started a new topic.  Right?? 
      
      Thanks, 
      Michael Reeder 
      mich...@hygeiacounseling.com 
      
      
      On 11/17/2020 2:32 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: 
      On 11/16/20 10:36 PM, Michael Reeder LCPC
        -- Hygeia Regular wrote:
        
        Hello All,
          
        
        
        Please don't hijack threads. When you want to post a new topic,
        don't do
        
        it by replying to another post, just compose a ney message to
        the list.
        
        
        
        I am running a listserv which was
          recently moved to GNU Mailman 2.1.23
          
          on a Dream Host server (I assume UNIX).  I am encountering the
          following
          
          problem:
          
        
        
        Please see
        <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20is%20not%20Listserv>.
        
        
        
        Replies to Digest messages (both MIME
          and plain text) sometimes have
          
          line breaks stripped from them.  We have seen this so far with
          both a
          
          version of Microsoft Outlook and an email client program for
          an Android
          
          phone.  As far as I know, the digest messages themselves
          originally all
          
          look fine when sent from the listserv.
          
          
          Anyone know if there is anything I can do about this?
          
        
        
        Use a different mail client that doesn't do this. Otherwse,
        there's
        
        nothing you can do to control what users mail clients do.
        
        
        
        Bonus Question:  I do not have command
          prompt access -- only admin panel
          
          access (listserv software is implemented through Dream Host).
          Anything I
          
          can do from the admin panel?  What would I ask Dream Host to
          change?
          
        
        
        There is no change to the digests themselves that would mitigate
        this
        
        issue without breaking the way the original digests render.
        
        
        Further, people shouldn't be replying to a digest. For a MIME
        format
        
        digest, they should open the individual message and reply to
        that. For
        
        the plain digest, they should just copy/paste relevant context
        from the
        
        digest into a new post to the list. Of course, training list
        members to
        
        do that is probably not possible ...
        
        
      
    
    
  
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