Jayson Smith writes: > What I mean is that I'd love to find a good, reliable smarthost I > can direct my SMTP server on my VPS to use.
You could try some of the services listed here: Hosting: https://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20hosting%20services Consulting: https://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20consulting%20services They might have a better idea or offer exactly the service you want. Otherwise, I think you kinda have to move your VPS to the service you want to use, and on top of the monthlies for running a server they'll charge you for email volume. AWS SES for example is 10,000 emails for $1 billed monthly, and there's a throughput charge as well but that too is probably negligible unless you're mailing videos. They do promise an IP with a clean reputation and they bonk your neighbors (and you) automatically for sending more than a tiny amount of spam, so I'd expect it to stay that way. FWIW .... > The real problem I'm seeing is that seemingly within the last few > years, at least some VPS providers (Linode and Digital Ocean for > sure) have started getting entire IP ranges put on blocklists. This is nothing new. Effort-minimizing admins have been blocking whole netblocks for well over a decade. I think one new aspect is that non-admins have borrowed the technique of mass-reporting to try to shut down all aspects of an individual's or organization's Internet presence. I wouldn't block at the SMTP CONNECT level based on IP or domain alone for the reasons you give for running your own smtpd, and I doubt Google or Microsoft do. But I know a lot of admins who do. I don't know what to do about it. I think my own server at my university got on Microsoft's bad side once, but it got better fairly quickly. I did contact Microsoft but I don't know if it had anything to do with getting off their blocklist, the only reply I got was a 'bot saying thank you for contacting Microsoft, check this link. I don't think they have their best minds working on the problem. Instead they get customers by being too big to block, is my guess. ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ Member address: arch...@mail-archive.com
