> 
> On Aug 23, 2026, at 9:01 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Note that DMARC is a demand by *senders* that receivers reject email
> apparently from them in certain circumstances.  If there is a non-null
> DMARC policy, most recipients will respect it.  But (outside of the
> authoritarian crank faction of the IETF's email working group) I've
> never heard a suggestion that *recipients* should demand a DMARC
> record of senders.  I really doubt that Microsoft is that kind of
> authoritarian crank, though -- their clients would notice loss of
> *lots* of mail.
> Steve
> 
> --

The issue isn’t that the mail providers think that DMARC demands they check 
even if not asked, but that they have made the decision that mail without 
SPF/DKIM verification is too likely spam, and that users are naive enough that 
alignment to just envelope sender is too likely to be phishing, thus mail that 
would fail a DMARC check isn’t considered safe. 

The sender doesn’t need an actual DMARC policy, just send it in a way that 
would pass the basic checks.
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