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Today's Topics:
1. cannot send email via fastmail in mailmate (Megan Price)
2. Re: cannot send email via fastmail in mailmate
(Benny Kjær Nielsen)
3. Re: cannot send email via fastmail in mailmate (Guy Boanas)
4. Re: Marking messages as read on open; Mailing Lists smart
folder (Bill Cole)
5. Re: Threaded view: new messages hidden in collapsed threads
(Benny Kjær Nielsen)
6. Re: Three questions: signature on new email (doesn't work?),
quick filters (/a la/ Thunderbird), filter order (Benny Kjær
Nielsen)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 10:42:16 -0700
From: "Megan Price" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MlMt] cannot send email via fastmail in mailmate
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Hello all - I am currently unable to send mail through mail mate using
my fastmail account. I have followed the fast mail documentation for
setting up my imap and smtp servers and have generated and am using an
app password. I can receive mail sent to my fast mail account, and I
can both send and receive mail via my gmail account. But I cannot
send
mail through mail mate via my fast mail account. I do not receive any
error messages, the messages just sit in my draft box forever.
Interestingly, some of the messages do display a progress bar under
the
“state” column, but it never actually makes progress. Other
messages display “pending submission” under state. All display
“not available” under the pending submission column.
I have reviewed these two topics:
https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg03175.html
https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg03355.html
And have tried sending with the Activity log open. In the log under
smtp I get flashes of “AUTH PLAIN” and “AUTH LOGIN”. In both
the log and the file ~/Library/Application\
Support/MailMate/Sources.plist) my smtp address contains an odd %40 in
the middle of my address. I've checked and edited the mailbox
settings
a number of times, and this does not actually appear in the editable
settings that I can see.
Thanks for any guidance.
Megan
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 19:53:21 +0200
From: "Benny Kjær Nielsen" <[email protected]>
To: "MailMate Users" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MlMt] cannot send email via fastmail in mailmate
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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On 3 Jul 2017, at 19:42, Megan Price wrote:
Hello all - I am currently unable to send mail through mail mate
using
my fastmail account. I have followed the fast mail documentation for
setting up my imap and smtp servers and have generated and am using
an
app password. I can receive mail sent to my fast mail account, and I
can both send and receive mail via my gmail account. But I cannot
send mail through mail mate via my fast mail account. I do not
receive any error messages, the messages just sit in my draft box
forever.
Interestingly, some of the messages do display a progress bar under
the “state” column, but it never actually makes progress. Other
messages display “pending submission” under state. All display
“not available” under the pending submission column.
You can generate logs for me as follows:
* Open the Activity Viewer (⌥⌘0).
* Relaunch MailMate.
* After you have seen some activity for SMTP in the Activity Viewer,
use
“Help ▸ Send Server Logs”.
I'm not sure why MailMate does not report an error, but maybe the logs
can help. It seems like MailMate might be in some kind of retry-loop.
I would prefer if you also update to the latest test release: Hold
down
⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences
pane.
And have tried sending with the Activity log open. In the log under
smtp I get flashes of “AUTH PLAIN” and “AUTH LOGIN”. In both
the log and the file ~/Library/Application\
Support/MailMate/Sources.plist) my smtp address contains an odd %40
in
the middle of my address. I've checked and edited the mailbox
settings a number of times, and this does not actually appear in the
editable settings that I can see.
The `%40` is just the URL encoding of `@`. It should not be a problem.
--
Benny
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 10:14:40 +1000
From: "Guy Boanas" <[email protected]>
To: "MailMate Users" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MlMt] cannot send email via fastmail in mailmate
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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I had this problem a few days back with both my fastmail and gmail
accounts showing the same. A Fastmail person was very helpful and
after
following instructions the problem ended. He suggested:
reconfigure the email client from scratch:
- Delete all existing email client settings
- Reboot/restart the machine
- Reconfigure it from scratch using the server details here:
https://www.fastmail.com/help/technical/servernamesandports.html
- Make sure that you delete the existing app password for the
client
from your account and create a new one while reconfiguring the client.
https://www.fastmail.com/help/clients/apppassword.html
The screenshot on the FM site for mailmate configuration shows no
numbers for the ports when actually they are required and this is
mentioned in other of their documents. I think it was this confusion
plus some caching issues which were causing problems.
On 4 Jul 2017, at 3:42, Megan Price wrote:
Hello all - I am currently unable to send mail through mail mate
using
my fastmail account. I have followed the fast mail documentation for
setting up my imap and smtp servers and have generated and am using
an
app password. I can receive mail sent to my fast mail account, and I
can both send and receive mail via my gmail account. But I cannot
send mail through mail mate via my fast mail account. I do not
receive any error messages, the messages just sit in my draft box
forever.
Interestingly, some of the messages do display a progress bar under
the “state” column, but it never actually makes progress. Other
messages display “pending submission” under state. All display
“not available” under the pending submission column.
I have reviewed these two topics:
https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg03175.html
https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg03355.html
And have tried sending with the Activity log open. In the log under
smtp I get flashes of “AUTH PLAIN” and “AUTH LOGIN”. In both
the log and the file ~/Library/Application\
Support/MailMate/Sources.plist) my smtp address contains an odd %40
in
the middle of my address. I've checked and edited the mailbox
settings a number of times, and this does not actually appear in the
editable settings that I can see.
Thanks for any guidance.
Megan_______________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 21:30:48 -0400
From: "Bill Cole" <[email protected]>
To: "MailMate Users" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MlMt] Marking messages as read on open; Mailing Lists
smart folder
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
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On 29 Jun 2017, at 14:54, Patrick Pritchard wrote:
1. In the Mailing Lists smart folder, sometimes new “lists” are
created with absolute gibberish for names, such as
“6141152_5959791”. I surmise that this is because the senders
are
using auto-email generators to email in bulk, and MlMt is grouping
these accordingly…
Yes, and it's even worse: some of these set the "List-Id" header to
something different for every message. It's a misuse of the header and
breaks (I suspect intentionally...) the utility of the header as
designed. The worst offenders in my opinion with this are the
spam-for-hire operators ExactTarget & MailChimp, who get that ranking
because they send enough legit mail that I can't just junk all of it.
Is there a way to fix this and/or adjust this? After a day I may
have
10 “new” mailing lists show up, which aren’t actually lists.
(But legitimate lists do show up, legitimately, which is nice!).
To handle the aforementioned miscreants, I've added conditions to my
Mailing Lists mailbox that the List-Id header does not contain
'list-id.mcsv.net' or 'xt.local' which are fingerprints of MailChimp
and
ExactTarget respectively.
Another approach I use for my most active discussion lists is that I
sort them on arrival into their own IMAP (not "Smart") mailboxes that
are all inside a "Lists" folder, so that I can then have a "Smart"
mailbox that contains the past fortnight of messages from all
mailboxes
underneath "Lists" split into submailboxes by mailbox name. This is
also
helpful for mailing lists that don't use List-Id headers, since the
rules sorting messages on arrival can target whatever arbitrary header
fingerprints work for a particular list.
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 10:51:23 +0200
From: "Benny Kjær Nielsen" <[email protected]>
To: "MailMate Users" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MlMt] Threaded view: new messages hidden in collapsed
threads
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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On 29 Jun 2017, at 19:58, John Cooper wrote:
Are there any settings, hidden or otherwise, that show new received
replies in expanded threads? I find threaded view indispensible, but
when new messages come in, they're hidden in collapsed threads. And
if
there was no thread before (that is, if only the initial message
previously existed), the new thread is always collapsed. I use
option-right arrow to open the threads many times a day. More if I
forget the option key. I think I'm about to wear it out.
I think you might be looking for “Message ▸ Next Unread
Message”.
(There are no options for auto-expanding when new messages arrive if
that's your question.)
I hope this helps.
--
Benny
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 10:48:36 +0200
From: "Benny Kjær Nielsen" <[email protected]>
To: "MailMate Users" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MlMt] Three questions: signature on new email (doesn't
work?), quick filters (/a la/ Thunderbird), filter order
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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On 28 Jun 2017, at 15:57, Andrew V. Jones wrote:
You already got some answers, but I'll add a few notes to clarify a
few
things.
I have just moved from Thunderbird to MailMate, after experiencing
issues with reliability in Thunderbird. So far, my experience with
MailMate has been great, and I have purchased a license for it.
Thanks for the support!
However, I am still suffering three niggles …
1) signature on new emails: one thing I liked about Thunderbird
was
that it could auto-insert a signature only to new emails; indeed
MailMate claims to support this by:
defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDynamicSignatureMethod -string
messageType
however, this really doesn’t work for me at all — I still have
to manually insert my signature (which is a bit annoying). Any
suggestions?
You should click “Reset Usage History” in the Signatures
preferences
pane to make sure MailMate doesn't remember anything wrong. After you
add a signature to a new message then MailMate should remember it for
future messages from the same sending address.
Also, the GUI options described in one of the replies only exist in a
special
[2.0BETA](https://updates.mailmate-app.com/2.0/archives/MailMate2Beta.tbz)
variant of MailMate. It has a few extra GUI options, but is mostly
identical to the 1.9.x releases.
2) Is there anyway to do “quick filtering” of an inbox like in
Thunderbird, where it filters (quickly) based only on the subject? I
guess I could type in “subject:<query>” every time, but that’s
also not terrible efficient
A single click on the subject in the headers view should also do this.
3) Order of results: I have my inbox ordered such that the most
recent emails should appear at the top, and my sent items in the
other
way (not sure why); however when I search for things, MailMate seems
to arbitrarily chose an order to sort the results (worse: if I
searching my inbox, it sorts it in the sent items order!) — does
anyone else see this?
Searches switch (by default) to “All Messages”. You can setup this
mailbox for your preferred style.
--
Benny
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