On 2023-08-14 at 12:18:47 UTC-0400 (Mon, 14 Aug 2023 09:18:47 -0700)
Jo <mailmate@lists.freron.com>
is rumored to have said:

>> "By the continue on your device(s) message in iCloud it’s telling you to use 
>> the device needed and the application on that device for that password. 
>> Doesn’t sound like you did anything wrong so far. So let’s look at MM, where 
>> of course you’ve already entered the new app-specific password 
>> appropriately."
>
> Except I did NOT create a new app specific password, I merely NAMED it 
> 'mailmate' — I never got to a screen that asked me to enter an actual 
> password. that's what I'm saying, it just kept taking me back to the 
> beginning again.

It never lets you enter a password of your choice. It GIVES YOU a password it 
has created after you give it a name. The display (on Safari) looks like the 
attached image.

>
> On 14 Aug 2023, at 3:53, Henry Seiden wrote:
>
>> Jo,
>>
>> What I can’t tell in iCloud (without doing what you did - removing/replacing 
>> the original password) is when you did that did the old app-specific 
>> password(s) disappear. I suspect they did, but don’t know for sure if that’s 
>> so. I found a post in [Apple Community 
>> discussions](https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252417570) that a user 
>> says that it is so. So based on your experience and theirs, I would agree 
>> with you.
>>
>> It sounds like you have now created a new app-specific password, it’s the 
>> only one there and it exists and you have named it. So, that should be it. 
>> The thing is the **ONLY** place to see/confirm it is on the iCloud.com web 
>> site.
>>
>> You won’t see it in the Mac (System Settings) or iPhone settings. So I 
>> believe you are correct that any previous settings were cleared as a result 
>> of your password change. If you care to complain about that possible issue, 
>> the place to go is Apple Support.
>>
>> And you should of course make note of it.  Why? Because in MM(MailMate) it 
>> won’t be visible either (security) even though it can be copied as a setting 
>> to use if migrating to another machine in the future.
>>
>> By the continue on your device(s) message in iCloud it’s telling you to use 
>> the device needed and the application on that device for that password. 
>> Doesn’t sound like you did anything wrong so far. So let’s look at MM, where 
>> of course you’ve already entered the new *app-specific password* 
>> appropriately.
>>
>> Going to MM… The menu Edit IMAP setting should indicate whether that 
>> password is now working for you there. In MM you input that *app-specific* 
>> password **INSTEAD** of the regular iCloud account password for MM’s IMAP 
>> Server and SMTP Server. Have you tried that? Sometimes if MM has trouble it 
>> will pop up the warning screen for the password to enter. You can enter it 
>> there or in Edit IMAP settings.
>>
>> Within MM’s edit IMAP settings, don’t forget to Apply your changes.
>>
>> How to check in MM that all is well? Click the edit subscriptions button to 
>> see if the screen populates with the server mailboxes showing (tells you 
>> that MM is communicating with the iCloud server). If it is, then all your 
>> mail should be showing up. Please confirm.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Henry Seiden
>> - -
>> Techworks Pro Co.
>> E: info<at>techworkspro<dot>com
>> W: http://techworkspro.com
>>
>> On 13 Aug 2023, at 21:42, Jo wrote:
>>
>>> OK, this is what happens. I go to icloud.com and sign in. That all works 
>>> fine with my new password (this is on my macbook). I click on App Specific 
>>> Passwords and it tells me I have none (I know I have created at least one 
>>> in the past, not sure if it was for MM or not, I forget). So I click on the 
>>> button that says 'generate an app specific password.' I name this 
>>> 'mailmate.' That takes me to the message 'C, ontinue on one of your devices
>>> On an iPhone, iPad or iPod touch go to Settings > Apple ID. On a Mac go to 
>>> System Preferences or System Settings > Apple ID.'
>>>
>>> OK, so I go to my phone, to settings/apple ID. There's nothing there that 
>>> seems to be encouraging me to continue. 2 factor ID is on. I look under 
>>> Password & Security, nothing about app specific passwords there. Can't find 
>>> anything anywhere that appears to help.
>>>
>>> I go back to the macbook and hit the ok button underneath the previous 
>>> instructions to continue on another device, but nothing happens there 
>>> either. It just takes me back to the beginning.
>>>
>>> what am I doiing wrong??
>>>
>>> (to be clear, this was all working just fine before I changed my apple ID 
>>> password a few days ago - I was receiving my icloud mail via MM no problem 
>>> - and yes I've updated the password in the IMAP account settings with the 
>>> new apple ID password)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13 Aug 2023, at 18:10, Henry Seiden wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jo,
>>>>
>>>> You create an app specific password in iCloud.com. However, you need to 
>>>> enable two-factor first. Then you can create the app-specific password 
>>>> there.  Maybe that’s why things are different with the changes you made?
>>>>
>>>> Here’s an [Apple Support document on implementing app-specific 
>>>> passwords](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204397).
>>>>
>>>> I label my own app-specific passwords with the apps they are used with for 
>>>> clarity in iCloud.com and in my local password manager(mSecure).
>>>>
>>>> All version of MailMate have no problem using the third party passwords 
>>>> once updated in iCloud. If you changed your base password in iCloud that 
>>>> is the first place to look to confirm its settings are still in place. 
>>>> Usually they stay put, I have not seen them change for this reason, but 
>>>> recommend that you check your iCloud.
>>>>
>>>> On 13 Aug 2023, at 19:55, Jo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My error message suggests I might need an app specific password which I 
>>>>> vaguely remember doing before, but I can't seem to create 
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jo
>>>
>>> Children seldom misquote you. In fact, they usually repeat word for
>>> word what you shouldn't have said.
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> Jo
>
> Children seldom misquote you. In fact, they usually repeat word for
> word what you shouldn't have said.
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