I suspect it's the hiding angle, but it's hard to tell.
It does seem to be someone offering a, "Service" out of Eastern Europe.
If the lists were unconfirmed, we'd block them; so the attack needs to use 
confirmed lists, and just bombard the target with what is, at least in theory, 
unblockable traffic.

I know it gave me serious pause when I first saw it, and I didn't have a solid 
answer for it, except to junk the confirmation emails.
If someone has a better idea how to keep mailinglist software like MailMan from 
being co-opted into such an attack, I would LOVE to hear it.

Aloha,
Michael.
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-----Original Message-----
From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Jay Hennigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:17 PM
To: mailop@mailop.org
Subject: Re: [mailop] signup form abuse

On 5/24/16 12:26 PM, Michael Wise wrote:
>
> We're still seeing cases where a malicious actor, typically in Eastern 
> Europe, will try and sign up a target email address for thousands of lists 
> all at once, flooding their mailbox with confirmation traffic , perhaps to 
> hide some other nefarious issues.

I wonder what the point is. How does the bad guy monetize it, or is it a 
coordinated attack against a specific victim? What other nefarious issues? 
Making the address useless or burying some other mail in the midst of the junk 
would seem to be a possibility.

If an attack against a specific victim, it would seem that unconfirmed 
marketing lists would be a more effective weapon than a bunch of random 
confirmation messages.

It kind of sounds like back in the college frat days of pranking someone by 
signing them up to Columbia Record Club and tons of bill-me-later magazine 
subscriptions, but that was usually aimed at a specific individual and watching 
the fallout was the fun part.

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